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History of Feminism
In reply to the discussion: Ladies, listen up [View all]boston bean
(36,530 posts)35. here is what was posted by name removed...
Look...here's the thing...
You need us, we don't you. I could quite happily live my life without feminism. I don't need feminists, and I'm not asking anything from them. You, on the other hand, have a big list of demands, and things men should or shouldn't do or say, but you're offering me nothing in return. You have nothing to negotiate with, so you rely purely on my goodwill. YOU need to convince ME, and you're not going to do it by being rude, aggressive, sarcastic or dismissive. It's as simple as that. You don't care about men's feelings or problems? Fine...makes no difference to me....but in that case, why would I care about yours?
Therefore, if you want me to listen to anything you have to say, you *WILL* conduct yourself appropriately and kiss my ass. If you don't, I'll simply ignore you.
Now, I'm sure your finger is already reflexively reaching for the alert button...but be aware that all you're doing is proving the stereotypes about feminists to be true and further eroding your credibility. If you can't defend your claims and views when questioned, or you think anyone who disagrees with you is a "misoygnist" or an "MRA", you probably shouldn't be posting messages on a public forum.
DU isn't your personal bully pulpit.
You need us, we don't you. I could quite happily live my life without feminism. I don't need feminists, and I'm not asking anything from them. You, on the other hand, have a big list of demands, and things men should or shouldn't do or say, but you're offering me nothing in return. You have nothing to negotiate with, so you rely purely on my goodwill. YOU need to convince ME, and you're not going to do it by being rude, aggressive, sarcastic or dismissive. It's as simple as that. You don't care about men's feelings or problems? Fine...makes no difference to me....but in that case, why would I care about yours?
Therefore, if you want me to listen to anything you have to say, you *WILL* conduct yourself appropriately and kiss my ass. If you don't, I'll simply ignore you.
Now, I'm sure your finger is already reflexively reaching for the alert button...but be aware that all you're doing is proving the stereotypes about feminists to be true and further eroding your credibility. If you can't defend your claims and views when questioned, or you think anyone who disagrees with you is a "misoygnist" or an "MRA", you probably shouldn't be posting messages on a public forum.
DU isn't your personal bully pulpit.
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very good. i read there is no need for feminism. we are beating a dead horse. aspirin between the
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#2
Yes, but what if they have an interest in psychology? Do we just sit at their feet, or should
Squinch
Dec 2013
#19
yes. women that flash the boobs are the true feminists... lol. that is right. we forgot. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#25
thank you. after posting.... and i truly LOVE what i posted and that woman, i thought
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#29
You have to have some kind of bargain or reward just to act respectful to people..?
arcane1
Dec 2013
#31
which duer was this, i wonder, having to create a fake name to face the feminists on du. coward.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#36
my opinion, if the sock was banned for that one post then the DUer that created that sock
Tuesday Afternoon
Dec 2013
#46