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9. IIRC, most studies over the past 60 years show that girls have always outperformed boys
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:58 PM
Dec 2013

in school at nearly every level, even though they were generally not encouraged to excel as the boys were, since the teachers all 'knew' they would just grow up and get married. The difference between then and now is that as long as the boys didn't absolutely flunk out (and many times even if they did), there would be good-paying jobs for them to step right into. That made school, for most boys, irrelevant. They had it made already. And, inversely, girls could get all the A's they wanted and would find that doing extremely well in school did them little good in the work world because of the societal expectations that they were just going for their "Mrs." degree, or they were only good for being in the helping professions like nursing or school teaching.

That dynamic changed only when it became unlawful to shunt women off into the pink-collar ghetto and women started to be accepted grudgingly in most occupations. Now, EVERYONE has to get a college degree to get even the lowest positions, and there's much more competition out there. Men, in the past, only had to compete against other men. Now there are twice as many people competing. Boys who find school tedious and boring have nowhere to go after they barely pass high school. These are the guys who have NEVER taken education seriously -- and they, along with girls who don't like school, are finding themselves at a serious disadvantage these days. What's interesting is that a college degree today is falling-down easy to get; with the online schools, bible 'colleges,' long-distance learning, community colleges, etc., the standards for passing courses are abysmally low. If you have a pulse and some money, you can get a college degree. (Of course, this has made college degrees useless, but that's a discussion for another thread.)

A third possibility is that boys/men are still in the mode of denigrating certain activities/things as "only for girls" -- IOW, if girls/women like it, do well at it, or have a numerical advantage in it, boys/men will shun it. If that's true, that attitude will bite them in the butt.




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I assume that to be co-educational schools/colleges. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #1
exactly. i agree. i have been preaching this. and this is why i am so bothered when talking about seabeyond Dec 2013 #2
I raised a son too,Sea sufrommich Dec 2013 #3
exactly. i saw the classes boys put effort in and struggled. was a ... pass the class. seabeyond Dec 2013 #4
Exactly,I guess what I was trying to say, sufrommich Dec 2013 #5
exactly....lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #6
Great post. YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #7
I wonder if the old male stereotypes don't play into this in some way... Flatulo Dec 2013 #8
IIRC, most studies over the past 60 years show that girls have always outperformed boys Nay Dec 2013 #9
i think this is another of the very real equations in all this. absolutely. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #10
I think there's another dynamic going on as well ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #11
Do you know if the percentage of boys/men attending college have dropped boston bean Jan 2014 #12
I believe it has dropped a bit. nt Nay Jan 2014 #14
Due to longstanding American anti-intellectualism, guys have never taken education seriously eridani Jan 2014 #13
"Anti-intellectualism" was exactly how I was going to put it. And that will doom us all if we let it nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #16
I'm very glad you posted this in this group. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #15
Also that girls do better in school, therefore men are oppressed now. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #17
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