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Squinch

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26. But why do one person's beliefs trump another person's beliefs?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jan 2014

No one is prohibiting these religious organizations from doing anything. They are just trying to prohibit the religious organizations from limiting access to birth control.

The Little Sisters are not being asked to do anything that is against the tenets of their religion. The government has accommodated these religious groups by making the insurance administrators provide birth control if the religious orders have religious objections, so the Little Sisters are not even being required to provide it. That is more than ample accommodation to ensure people don't have to choose between their jobs and their convictions.

When I was on the pill, for many years, it was $50 a month. Maybe that's my region, I don't know, but that's what it cost. For many people, that is a very significant monthly bill. I was never able to find any charity birth control, and I don't believe that charity birth control really exists in most areas.

Finally, if they are allowed to exempt themselves from our national healthcare in this way, what is to stop companies all over the country from suddenly declaring themselves ethically opposed to other conditions, for example, ectopic pregnancy removal or hysterectomies. Why shouldn't a Jewish owned company refuse to treat any conditions that are uncommon in circumcised men? Why should conservative Muslim owned companies treat skin cancer in women, who they believe should have been protected from the sun since birth? The list could go on and on.

The President has provided ample separation of church and state in this area. Now they are just splitting hairs.

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On this subject, I agree with feminist marxists... Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #1
thank you for pointing this out niyad Jan 2014 #3
Agreed all around. This stuff really interests (and concerns) me on a deep level. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #5
so very, very true niyad Jan 2014 #2
Yup ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #4
Amen and yes, that's 100% true. nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2014 #6
yes, and you sound sincere. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #7
I understand "trust" is difficult for some people, and I try not to take that personally. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #20
I'm gobsmacked that institutions are even *thinking* about giving employers Bette Noir Jan 2014 #8
Well according to Christianity, human beings (women especially) are pretty much God's slaves anyway. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #10
The Right Wing believes you sign over ALL of your rights when you trade your services for money... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #14
They aren't deciding YarnAddict Jan 2014 #23
I don't agree, Yarn. The employers aren't going to pay for the birth control. They are Squinch Jan 2014 #24
I checked the PP site YarnAddict Jan 2014 #25
But why do one person's beliefs trump another person's beliefs? Squinch Jan 2014 #26
Imposing religious doctrine on health plans *does* violate church-state separation. Absolutely right nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #30
I think the thing that bothers me about this is that Obama came up with a reasonable, good-faith Squinch Jan 2014 #31
Except birth control is a basic part of health care. And if it isn't, then why should Viagra or nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #29
In such a society, women's healthcare would be considered geek tragedy Jan 2014 #11
What a different world it would be, if only... freshwest Jan 2014 #12
You would be surprised to find out how many women believe it already passed. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #15
Since I was campaigning for it and the voting age amendment, I paid attention. Some thought that freshwest Jan 2014 #16
The usual suspects.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #18
Just heard someone tonight say, "If a woman is out to HERE though..." Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #13
Bet it's all crickets by then, huh? n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #17
The usual: They claim they speak for God and that is supposed to win the day. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #19
Here is a new and different question to ask those who speak for God: truedelphi Jan 2014 #27
Hell, some of these people are too dumb to follow that. They think the Jews worship Jesus too. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #28
A big reason the anti choice nuts are more sufrommich Jan 2014 #21
There really IS this puritanical crap linking sex with morality. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #22
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