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davidthegnome

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25. This is a question I have often asked.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:46 PM
Mar 2014

However... if a young child is attacked ferociously by a dog, it is possible that they will have a fear of dogs well into their adulthood. I think it's kind of similar. At least in the sense that - once someone has had a bad experience with a man, or with a number of men, it tends to taint the way one looks at them. Consciously or subconsciously, our experiences make up the whole of what we are. When so many young men act like sex crazed idiots, it doesn't really come as a surprise that we are all painted with the same brush - even if it is, at times, inaccurate. Does this excuse this behavior (judging all by the actions of a few)? Not really, but perhaps it explains it a little.

For me it's not so much about right or wrong, as it is simply about the experiences that we have. Personally, I am a much harsher judge of men than I am of women - I am less comfortable around them, and my guard is always up. This is because of experiences that I have had personally.

All of that being said - there's a lot of really great men out there too, who think with the organs which are intended for thinking. The media though, everything from our magazines, to our movies, to random internet ads... capitalizes on, sells, indulges in, uses - and objectifies sex. It makes it out to be something "naughty", like in porn flicks where a man completely degrades a woman and she basically says "Oh yeah, do it again!"

The reality of it is that the taboo itself sort of makes it taboo, if that makes sense. Hundreds of years of oppression through the tools of humanity - government and religion - not just against our general rights as human beings, but against our very bodies. The suggestion that doing something that feels good is bad, evil, just because it feels good. It's nonsense. Humanity is really pretty damn stupid, we took a simple, wonderful thing - and it make it insanely complex and conflicted.

I'd love to live in a world where we weren't all so damn shy, so damn uptight, about our bodies. We're social creatures, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with sex itself. It's just our twisted culture - and I can't see a way out, for men, or women.

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I never understood the juxtaposition of "men are in charge" and "men can't control themselves". uppityperson Mar 2014 #1
I've also never understood the fragility of these person's sexualities. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #2
if humans all went naked most of these issues would disappear IMO nt msongs Mar 2014 #3
The fabrication of the human body as taboo is what has driven us to such instability. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #4
then why all the harrumphing over the si swimsuit issue? Doctor_J Mar 2014 #5
Because it turns the naked body of a female into a sexual object to be consumed by mass strangers. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #8
your op is perfectly clear in and of itself, but is in direct Doctor_J Mar 2014 #16
Your argument essentially amounts to "women want it." Which is deplorable. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #17
If were not sexually attracted to each other, we would be extinct liberal N proud Mar 2014 #6
All objectification is demeaning. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #7
I realize it is used by ignorant people in regard to homosexuality liberal N proud Mar 2014 #9
No, you're acting exactly like those ignorant people... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #11
It is what it is! liberal N proud Mar 2014 #13
Would you like some soap for that hand wash? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #15
Wonderful, yet unsupported bumper-sticker you recited there, little fella! LanternWaste Mar 2014 #45
Huh? liberal N proud Mar 2014 #46
But, but! xfundy Mar 2014 #10
Here pipoman Mar 2014 #12
I guess I was being too subtle. I'm saying men can control themselves but choose not to. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #14
I saw what you said pipoman Mar 2014 #18
No, of course not. But the difference in conduct between the sexes is staggering. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #19
so why is it fair to attribute the acts of some pipoman Mar 2014 #20
This is a question I have often asked. davidthegnome Mar 2014 #25
I think perhaps that F4lconF16 Mar 2014 #26
seems pretty easy to put in a reference like pipoman Mar 2014 #27
If you deny yourself contextual inference, interpretation and textual criticism... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #44
Yep. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #28
Read post 12 and 14 and explain how anyone pipoman Mar 2014 #31
I'm sorry, you lost me here... A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #32
fat fingers on a tiny keyboard. .fixed it. . pipoman Mar 2014 #33
Maybe it's my turn in the will to misunderstand chair A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #34
+1 F4lconF16 Mar 2014 #42
I've heard if you keep asking a question, it's premise eventually becomes true. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #35
And dodging a question after several inquiries pipoman Mar 2014 #36
I've literally answered your stupid question in this very thread. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #37
If 14 is the answer pipoman Mar 2014 #38
Two things... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #39
Misogyny and misandry have no bounds.. pipoman Mar 2014 #40
Would you like to expound on that? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #41
The sexuality of a naked body is in the eye of the beholder Gman Mar 2014 #21
Why are we the only primate to be naked? ErikJ Mar 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #24
K&R Heathen57 Mar 2014 #23
Hmmm . . . cer7711 Mar 2014 #29
And when you say "community-based sex play" you mean what exactly? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #43
I'm having a lot of fun rereading Barbara Walker's "encyclopedia" ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #30
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