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Violet_Crumble

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42. I agree with you, BainsBane...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 04:42 PM
Mar 2014

I had the same reaction as you about the hides, and also haven't yet watched the video. While I'm a visual person and something visual can get its message home to me more powerfully than even 2,000 words describing it, I don't think I'm emotionally strong enough at the moment to sit through it. Plus I don't think I'm part of the target audience of people who thanks to the media don't take notice of something if it happens in Africa and are too fixated on their own patch of turf to register that terrible, horrific things are happening in the DRC...

I got what the intent of the film-makers was, though, and I suspect that the vast majority of people who watched it would have reacted with horror and want to find out about what's going on in the DRC and see what they can do to help stop it. I'm aware from reading those threads that while most DUers who posted had that exact reaction, that wasn't the case for everyone...

Uppityperson posted an OP in GD that's a good starting point for finding about more information and what we can do to help.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024619365

Amnesty International also has information. I'm a member and for anyone wanting to do something, no matter how small, joining AI is a good thing to do....

Violence against women and girls

Women and girls bore the horrific cost of intensified hostilities and were widely subjected to rape and other forms of sexual violence committed both by the FARDC and armed groups. Women and girls at particular risk were those in villages targeted for looting and intimidation operations by armed groups and the national army, as well as those living in camps for displaced people, who often had to walk long distances to reach their fields.

•Between April and May, M23 combatants reportedly raped several dozen girls and women in the Jomba area in Rutshuru territory in North Kivu, where the M23 established its base. Most of those attacked had been displaced by the conflict.

Sexual violence was more pervasive where the national army lived alongside the population.

•In late November, the UN reported that the FARDC were responsible for at least 126 cases of rape within a few days in Minova where the national army had retreated after the fall of Goma on 20 November.

Elsewhere in the country, members of the national police and other security forces continued to commit acts of rape and sexual violence.

Rape survivors were stigmatized by their communities, and did not receive adequate support or assistance.

Impunity

Impunity continued to fuel further human rights abuses. Efforts by judicial authorities to increase the capacity of the courts to deal with cases, including cases involving human rights abuses, had only limited success; many older cases did not progress. The Ministry of Justice’s initiatives in 2011 to address impunity for past and current crimes under international law were stalled and victims continued to be denied access to truth, justice and reparations. Court rulings were not implemented and key cases, such as the Walikale and the Bushani and Kalambahiro mass rapes of 2010 and 2011, progressed no further.


Although the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights asked the civil and military judicial authorities in February to open investigations into allegations of electoral violence, there was little evidence of any progress in the investigations during the year.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/democratic-republic-congo/report-2013#section-37-4


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As I said to you at the time, my reaction is similar. malthaussen Mar 2014 #1
" I do tend to shy away from the "this mustn't be seen" response." then, normalize. seabeyond Mar 2014 #3
I doubt it accomplishes even that. malthaussen Mar 2014 #6
of course it does. literally, with our brain. we factually know it to be true. seabeyond Mar 2014 #7
But the mere fact that the makers of the film... malthaussen Mar 2014 #8
it is an indictment of society. if people do not say no. just no. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #9
Then wouldn't the same argument apply to even informing us that this happened? malthaussen Mar 2014 #11
how does the visual affect us? you ask? seabeyond Mar 2014 #14
Sorry, wasn't trying to divert... malthaussen Mar 2014 #17
but... my suggestion is, it is not digging deeper. it is running away. seabeyond Mar 2014 #19
That people not only objectify women-- they objectify Sex itself ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #2
it bottom lines to.... purposely hurting a girl (or woman) to make a statement. seabeyond Mar 2014 #4
Yeah I tend to over- analyze ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #5
I think that leads into a morass of trying to define a "sexual act." malthaussen Mar 2014 #10
I found the movie ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #12
Probably by some people. malthaussen Mar 2014 #13
Kind of what I think ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #16
I do tend to think people have the right to go to hell in their own fashion... malthaussen Mar 2014 #20
Interesting and accurate point of view IMO ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #22
I mean much the same thing when I talk about "damage control." malthaussen Mar 2014 #40
do you think maybe... because you are a man not seeing these humiliations done to your body, seabeyond Mar 2014 #23
Oh, unquestionably, Seabeyond. malthaussen Mar 2014 #25
none of it is sexual, and yet sexually gets men off. point. this is my point. we create. with this seabeyond Mar 2014 #21
And never the male ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #24
exactly. wouldnt a worse horror, rather than abusing a girls body have been, taking a grown man.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #26
One of the questions I asked myself about this video malthaussen Mar 2014 #30
I have no first-hand knowledge of such... malthaussen Mar 2014 #28
In Stephan Kings revised version of "The Stand" ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #33
Yeah, these things are clearly about what I call "dominance dynamics." malthaussen Mar 2014 #36
Perhaps when people first and foremost think of penetrative sex as a violent act MadrasT Mar 2014 #44
yes, I can see how that happens in thinking of it all. Thank you. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #49
Sea, you and I may not agree on this... Squinch Mar 2014 #15
so i ask squinch. what are we going to have to do next to a girl, to horrify us, as this becomes seabeyond Mar 2014 #18
losing the ability to feel. the extreme we are having to go to in order to feel. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #50
The video on the Congo? BainsBane Mar 2014 #27
this is my point. women told me that video was needed to be aware. yet, i was aware without the seabeyond Mar 2014 #29
I'll just point out there is a difference between porn and documentary BainsBane Mar 2014 #31
then from a visual perspective. of watching. what is the difference. seabeyond Mar 2014 #32
One is intended to inform, and does inform BainsBane Mar 2014 #34
i said from a visual perspective. seabeyond Mar 2014 #37
this: Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #46
I, too, use to appease myself saying men are equally repulsed. Then I realized being men they could seabeyond Mar 2014 #47
Not all men participated in those threads. Surely, The Silent Majority of DU do not agree with Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #48
I was still sittin in the horror of the girl getting a rifle shoved up her. seabeyond Mar 2014 #51
That scene with the gun ... was just a flash. I actually missed it the first time I saw the video Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #52
It goes back to my concern ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #35
people coddle their "pretty little minds" (barbara bush, not an insult but point), to be able seabeyond Mar 2014 #38
I get you. ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #39
another point. another question. how do you know? how do you know MOST people will be repulsed in seabeyond Mar 2014 #41
I agree with you, BainsBane... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #42
OK. I am weird and maybe because of my medical background. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #43
As a society we have become desensitized. It really is that simple. sea. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #45
I saw the landing page JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #53
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