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In reply to the discussion: Victim advocates applaud Craigslist rape verdict [View all]mercuryblues
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no one here is denying women are complicit. Yet you seem fixated on insisting so. Perhaps
According to you, growing up under a patriarchal system does not excuse someone for being oppressive, but it does excuse someone for not realizing she is being oppressed. The models on the front of a swimsuit cover are innocent because they grew up in a system which encouraged them to see themselves as beautiful objects and discouraged them from developing other talents. However, the men who grew up under that same system will not be excused for being trained to believe that seeing women as a sexual resource instead of full fledged humans is okay, even though many of the women around them behave in ways that reenforce that belief.
Back to Lily Ledbetter, do you think that the men, who set her pay were not aware they were paying her far less than the men she worked beside? I meant to add in (then realizing I was late for an apt) just hit post. there is no excuse for the women who actively participates in the system, knowing the harm it does to others. Do you think the men who chose that cove for SI were not aware that the T&A pic on the cover objectified women? hell that is the reason they put it there, to boost their sales.
Like I said, nuances.
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men who pay for sex often believe that they buy the right to do anything they want,
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#1
lol. i hadnt read that part of her post. just the article. was clueless what manny was talking
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#3
i think mostly the SOP is not used to diss or flamebait, but mostly for putting the wrong post
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#28
it is funny. i would have never thought. i am so NAIVE about some things cause
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#7
ah ha. cant we at least wait until 4'ish. lol. for breakfast? nah. lol. thanks
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#23
redq is very good at explaining this. i think we need an Op about this again. i had an Op in GD
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#8
Sorry my bad. Editing these posts away, with some explanation in the other one.
Threedifferentones
Mar 2014
#14
or you could say... what are you talking about? because yuor imterpretation is wrong. not an
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#15
The statement "most men are complicit in rape culture" does not seem to intersect different forms
Threedifferentones
Mar 2014
#50
I neglected to edit the post you are responding to, unlike the others, but as I said my point
Threedifferentones
Mar 2014
#69
Your post illustrates the "so what" quite well, and the nuances of oppression are what you ignore.
Threedifferentones
Mar 2014
#71
That thread was locked and rightfully so. That is why your post would not go through.
Tuesday Afternoon
Mar 2014
#18
I am not overfond of the practice of alerting, either. The number of threads locked has diminished
Tuesday Afternoon
Mar 2014
#29
as your question above shows, you are right. they either slightly kinda believe a rape culture even
seabeyond
Mar 2014
#38
Thank you for posting this! It's good to see these individuals being punished. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#51