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History of Feminism

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geek tragedy

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Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:48 PM Mar 2014

being pro-choice doesn't mean men are respectful of women's bodies, autonomy [View all]

and privacy.

the real test is where respecting women's personal autonomy and choices conflicts with their potential interests/rights/privileges as a man.

it's a very low bar for a man to respect women's rights when it only stands to benefit him by making women more sexually available by lowering (but of course not eliminate) the risk to them of being sexually available

you can see this when women assert their personal autonomy and rights in a way that potentially disadvantages some man, somewhere, to some minor degree.

see, for example, a woman who dares to give birth in the presence of only people she feels comfortable around, and not have a man there whose presence would upset her.

then all bets are off with some

see the comments here, as an example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014752698

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I though it may have been that thread that led to this premise... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #1
I'm glad you raised this point BainsBane Mar 2014 #2
well, abortion is "enabling" for some men... CTyankee Mar 2014 #4
Which is why people (including men) should use birth control in the first place. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #30
I guess I shouldn't have expected "better" in that thread's responses... CTyankee Mar 2014 #3
It really is transparent, isn't it? kcr Mar 2014 #5
it's his RIGHT to have hospital staff rip the baby out of the mother's arms and geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6
I don't even want to think about the fact that some of these people are real. kcr Mar 2014 #7
OMG. That thread was disgusting. You are a better person than I am Squinch Mar 2014 #8
No it doesn't and it never did ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #9
we're not likely to have kids, but my wife doesn't want me in the room geek tragedy Mar 2014 #10
And this doesn't have to be complicated does it? ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #11
giving people their space generally is a pretty simple proposition geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12
Oh crap the guys an asshole ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #13
most men in there--including a few with whom we disagree on some issues--are geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14
You ever wonder why they don't claim or brag about their ideology? ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #15
You're right wryter2000 Mar 2014 #18
No MRAs on DU... MadrasT Mar 2014 #16
Good lord. wryter2000 Mar 2014 #17
What a depressing thread gollygee Mar 2014 #19
But what about the men? redqueen Mar 2014 #20
I should have waited JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #21
Heh. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #22
provided he ever had one nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #23
Indeed. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #24
You did a fabulous job Tumbulu Mar 2014 #25
Pisses me off that people like that try to define men's agenda and interests. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #26
well, good job! Tumbulu Mar 2014 #27
I just saw those today. redqueen Mar 2014 #28
Crazy thread... Texasgal Mar 2014 #29
Not getting a woman pregnant is my responsibility. Hence condoms/vasectomy. n/t nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #31
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