History of Feminism

ismnotwasm

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43. I watched that show with my grandson a while back

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:06 PM

Apr 2014

I was cringing. I didn't realize how casual sexism was in those shows-- I had a vague recall of it being the nerds beat the asshole jock types-- but there was Rapey illegal stuff like major Voyeurism
in that movie-- I had to explain a whole lot of things to Nate. That whole series is disgusting. I don't mind sex or potty humor but I had forgotten it what was taken as a norm at the time.

(Personally I was a chameleon-I fit in whatever group I found myself in without engagement. Then left. Not a great way to live)

I'll tell you one thing-- I'm very happy to see a rise in Geek culture for young women and men--they found a place to belong without having to change who they are. Too bad you missed out one that. I think a lot of people were hurt like you were.

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A Glossary of MRAs feel free to add [View all] intaglio Apr 2014 OP

We need to raise consciousness of this CFLDem Apr 2014 #1

Are there two people using your username? redqueen Apr 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2014 #5

Joker(s) that has already sat on Eight (8) Juries. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #10

absolutely. so that. it cannot be said any clearer. game? joke? two people? nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #6

Or none of the above. CFLDem Apr 2014 #35

you are too inconsistent. that is where the problem lies. people do not like being made a fool of. seabeyond Apr 2014 #37

Prove it. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #56

Sure thing Tuesday CFLDem Apr 2014 #61

Your ignorance is showing. I suggest you post less and read more. I say that in the kindest Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #63

respectfully to all of du, i would like to express my thoughts. but i am afraid even civilly i seabeyond Apr 2014 #8

if he really was sincere he would publicly apologize and Rec this thread. Also, now you know Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #14

it isnt done so well. pretty obvious. pretty clear. for most of us. just cause there is not a seabeyond Apr 2014 #16

" ... for most of us..." yes and still they sit on juries, in judgement of good and faithful DUers Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #19

"Community Standards" MadrasT Apr 2014 #20

i know.... a belly laugh, collectively. that ship long sailed. lasted all of a couple months seabeyond Apr 2014 #22

you must understand, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #23

good to know. no one at our age, wants to be called naive. for sure. ahhhhh seabeyond Apr 2014 #26

well, weather has its own version of community standards, yanno Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #30

yes. that is why i have a couple "friends" on jury blacklist. that does about say it all, right? nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #24

Here's a few from manboobz ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #2

ah, the western woman one. i started seeing that all over the place, two years ago. saw someone seabeyond Apr 2014 #7

... harpies ... I know what they look like thanks to the very kind DUer that posted a picture. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #11

you know. it says something when an older woman posts a picture dissing older women. lol. get this seabeyond Apr 2014 #12

that is awesome. the difference between the motivation behind the action ... Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #15

"difference between the motivation behind the action ..." point. people are not as seabeyond Apr 2014 #17

Coy ... good word. Yes. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #21

you know. i taught both boys to not even bother. we were all too clever. just wasnt gonna work. seabeyond Apr 2014 #27

yes. it just doesn't fly. it is a game to play and it takes two to play games. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #33

oh oho oh. which takes us back to me talking to cfl.... and the whole game. seabeyond Apr 2014 #36

yeah, the Ye Ole Internet Game. Amazes me that it still holds fascination for some. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #64

Well I admit to liking this from "Bewitched" ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #18

again, the intent and motivation of that original picture is Art and Well Played. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #25

You mean given her character on the show? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #28

feathers flying. ya. seabeyond Apr 2014 #31

see, I love it, too ... POWERFUL and IMAGINATIVE ... and posted with good intent. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #32

Someone actually used that word? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #39

yes, Someone actually used both the harpie and the hag words and yes, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #67

ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha. i love. that is great. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #29

NAWALT - same shit that's been used by people to deflect critical thought for decades. redqueen Apr 2014 #9

The most egregious of posters ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #13

very interesting. i did not realize that was what red pill was about. hey... seabeyond Apr 2014 #4

Minor defense of the "red pill" folks jeff47 Apr 2014 #34

isnt it amazing we are not spending so much time in life saying. what about the fat girls, geek girl seabeyond Apr 2014 #38

Well, for the girls they have the scene where jeff47 Apr 2014 #46

having raised two boys. having one at 19 and one at 16. one dork, one geek who totally embrace seabeyond Apr 2014 #49

I'm not saying it's boys being boys. jeff47 Apr 2014 #52

because they live in a society that maes them feel entitled. cause they watch that nerd series that seabeyond Apr 2014 #54

No, they live in a society that tells them they will never attract a woman. jeff47 Apr 2014 #58

i am going to think about this. thanks. what i had going against me, is i was never much a kid, seabeyond Apr 2014 #59

No, society tells them they will not "get" a HOT woman. redqueen Apr 2014 #65

society is actually telling/defining what is a HOT woman. HOT women have to look and act in a Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #71

"It is ALL such a HUGE LOAD of BULLSHIT" redqueen Apr 2014 #75

I like to get to the heart of the matter Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #77

Word. Sing it, Tuesday. n/t MadrasT Apr 2014 #79

Thanks, MadrasT Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #96

It really is any woman. jeff47 Apr 2014 #81

i am still on entitlement. i see it in the best of guys. they intellectually know better. seabeyond Apr 2014 #74

this is why the entitlement. even in the geek male movies, the women are treated like shit. even seabeyond Apr 2014 #76

it is also hand in hand with street harassment. those men are not geeks. and they do the same. why? seabeyond Apr 2014 #78

Entitlement usually refers to getting more than you diserve jeff47 Apr 2014 #84

a right to something. from the time these guys are babies.... thru out life seabeyond Apr 2014 #86

Except entitled to sex really isn't relevant to a child jeff47 Apr 2014 #88

sigh. it is not sex at the younger age, but it is entitled to the wife, the served, the taken care seabeyond Apr 2014 #90

And I'm saying they don't think they can have that. jeff47 Apr 2014 #92

BUT... they have already learned they are suppose to. hence entitlement. geeez seabeyond Apr 2014 #93

Heh... at age 4 MadrasT Apr 2014 #94

it is. and i have been thinking of you of late, with all the discussion happening. seabeyond Apr 2014 #95

On the other hand... MadrasT Apr 2014 #97

omg... lol. that is too fuggin cute. too. i grew up on a farm. lol. seabeyond Apr 2014 #98

If that is the case (that they are convinced geeks are unappealing) that's a shame. MadrasT Apr 2014 #40

Thank you for sharing CFLDem Apr 2014 #41

we are talking about young men, in the reddit, that actively try to ruin a girl or womans life. seabeyond Apr 2014 #44

I think you give them too much credit. CFLDem Apr 2014 #48

i do not give them much credit at all. i think the are cowards. weak. ugly inside. lacking character seabeyond Apr 2014 #53

They've been taught civility, kindness and respect. jeff47 Apr 2014 #50

they are doing it cause they are ENTITLED to fuck the hot girl, use the hot girl seabeyond Apr 2014 #55

No, they are doing it to hurt the unattainable girl. jeff47 Apr 2014 #60

still thinking. boys lash out. girls within. no it is not biological or innate. it is culturally seabeyond Apr 2014 #66

Taking off glasses = already "hot" girl learns to sexualize herself. redqueen Apr 2014 #70

At least there's a path. jeff47 Apr 2014 #80

no. there is not. girls know. they are not fooled. the path is no more than for a boy. seabeyond Apr 2014 #83

Where is the path for that geeky boy? jeff47 Apr 2014 #85

serious???? that geek boy is the success now he just has to BUY a woman to use as a tool, no seabeyond Apr 2014 #87

That would be if he's a highly-paid adult. jeff47 Apr 2014 #89

hey. you are talking were would be a path. not a reality of a path. just like seabeyond Apr 2014 #91

Exactly. And all of this leaves out the hate. The anger and resentment and hostility. redqueen Apr 2014 #99

Then why not date a not "hot" girl? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #103

^this is society's double standard on expectations^ it is EXPECTED that our children act in such a Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #62

I watched that show with my grandson a while back ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #43

i have had that happen to me a handful of times, with movies back in my day. seabeyond Apr 2014 #100

Embarrassing isn't it? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #105

And now you are making assumptions about other men.... bettyellen Apr 2014 #101

+1 MadrasT Apr 2014 #102

I understand the impulse to relate to "geeks" but they are NOT all alike bettyellen Apr 2014 #104

There's a bunch that are big on mail order brides JoeyT Apr 2014 #42

is this the mra older man, disillusioned? but you are right. i stated elsewhere today. but ya.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #45

I had no idea there was any real opposition to IMBRA. JoeyT Apr 2014 #47

hmmm. lol. fuck. all of this crap. and simple self loathing? fuck. i have not even heard of seabeyond Apr 2014 #57

this is great BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #51

The thing that gets me MadrasT Apr 2014 #68

that these guys seem to think any woman can automatically have any man she chooses at the drop of a seabeyond Apr 2014 #69

Yeah, maybe if she lowers her standards it's possible. redqueen Apr 2014 #73

"Bad Boy," "Alpha," "Dominant" - The same insufferable loser chrisa Apr 2014 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #82