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AuntPatsy

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4. I used the episode as a teaching took for my granddaughter.....
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 03:30 PM
Apr 2014

Though the show is obviously fictional, the reality of the times makes that particular crime non-fictional as well as standard form in how women's rights were less than those of a favored pet....

Considering the times we live in and the current events that are more than visible to the average citizen, women's rights are still on a tilting scale of ones personal beliefs...

I've read many many posts on DU recently where a few (that few being one too many) who believe the fear we women feel that our rights are always being attacked are nothing short of ridiculous.

Those few whom find humor in females fearful of our past horrors being visited once again in my opinion simply choose to ignore the facts in play even in today's world..

Back to the episode in question I talked with my granddaughter, asked how she felt that even in today's world , most view women, even other women that view themselves as less than their male counterparts....

For far too many minds back in the day as well as our present reality believe that we women are mostly here for the comfort of men, to not only take care of the children but to ensure the sexual desires of men will always come first....

So called pro lifers are nothing more than foolish followers of those that continue to desire a world where women know their rightful place in what is still in far too many ways a male dominated society...

I warned her she will have to continue to remain vigilant and ready to fight those wishing that scenario of women second to men to return, the episode showed in my opinion how little a women at one time had any power to decide her fate."."

I also talk about the very real present scenario where the rich have so much power over most of us, both male and female to the point where even in today's society there are two different levels of laws, one law we on the lower end of the financial equation must adhere too or face consequences or the laws designed to coddle the wealthier of those whom grace our society...

The Game of Thrones in my opinion could and should show the dangers that face us all when some (for instance the Koch brothers) have no real threat of having to face the consequences of criminal behaviors still very much exist in today's society as well as even a society of a thousand years ago....

Slavery is still very much an issue, skin color or ethnicity being second when we realize, it's us against them ,always has been, and seemingly always will be if history and present day events are compared...

Fear will always be used to keep the masses in line, the moment if ever when a society realizes there are more of us then of them, and not allow fear to control their daily lives will then and only then might we perhaps begin to win the war that has raged on for centuries among mankind where mankind's desire to have complete rule over others and feel superior over others is no longer such a pronounced reality for the majority of humans on earth....

Fear tactics that are still In use today and apparently the easiest ways of controlling others is of course like it or not mostly revolved around the concept of religions, status/wealth and or ethnicticity....

How we keep falling for such easy tactics considering our supposed intelligence is honestly beyond my understanding ....

Bottom line, Cessi was raped, it was a crime and yet as in today's world there are far too many who would feel considering the circumstances of the horrific crime that she deserved it....after all she had already slept with Jamie, her brother so why would she even fear it....

(Sigh)

My granddaughter is well aware what Jamie did was a crime regardless of Cessis history, no one has a right to make another a victim based on on ones supposed redemption, that coming from those who honestly felt Jamie was the one wronged.and therefore the real victim....and yes I've heard that reasoning as to why the raping of Cessi was not criminal simply because not only do they dislike her character but they viewed her as already Jamie's for want of a better term Sex Slave......

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game of thrones [View all] seabeyond Apr 2014 OP
If you notice on the credits R.R. Martin was involved in the screen play. Regardless, the books lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #1
Rape as entertainment. Rape of men and children reality. Are you being entertained with man and seabeyond Apr 2014 #2
You are asking a question about how people are brought up. I don't have to tell you what people lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #7
i disagree. i think raping women and girls has become the ew norm in entertainment. and this is a seabeyond Apr 2014 #9
A Song of Fire and Ice portrays a world that really is shit for women Scootaloo Apr 2014 #3
There is scarcely a decent human being in the series BainsBane Apr 2014 #6
You should read the books. I'm halfway through 'A Feast For Crows' Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #14
"I was just starting to like Jamie" Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #15
Then last night they have him be decent BainsBane Apr 2014 #34
Fine, for that incident I have no idea why it was changed, but the book itself is full that behavior lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #8
how many explicit rape scenes of men, that would comapre to rape of women, have you seen on that seabeyond Apr 2014 #10
Frankly, I didn't read the books or when I do watch it view it that way. Sorry I don't fit into lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #11
the point is obvious. in our face. and still, instead of just syaing it is what it is. we like to seabeyond Apr 2014 #12
How can you say that when you haven't even watched the show? BainsBane Apr 2014 #13
Sea, this was womens reality. boston bean Apr 2014 #16
i am tired of greater and greater graphic rape, sexualized, more drawn out seabeyond Apr 2014 #19
Have you got a link to HBO saying that? Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #39
The rape scene in question lasts exactly 42 seconds. During the entire scene, Flatulo Apr 2014 #41
There have been 3 or 4 penis shots, including Flatulo Apr 2014 #23
and.....people find that entertaining? Skittles Apr 2014 #26
Apparently so. It is a smash hit by any metric. Flatulo Apr 2014 #30
to each their own Skittles Apr 2014 #33
I used the episode as a teaching took for my granddaughter..... AuntPatsy Apr 2014 #4
For more insightful commentary... LuvLoogie Apr 2014 #5
You're right of course. Men and childten were raped, too, but that isn't put on screen, redqueen Apr 2014 #17
Well, severing Theon's penis was pretty harsh, but they Flatulo Apr 2014 #24
That's kind of the point though. We know it happens. We don't have to see it, never mind being seaglass Apr 2014 #25
The character Cearce is raped once. There is one other non-consensual sex scene, Flatulo Apr 2014 #31
I think those women were being raped by the rebels last night BainsBane Apr 2014 #32
Yes they were being raped. It was mentioned in the book, not emphasized as HBO did. It's really seaglass Apr 2014 #35
Just reading the conversations on this show literally makes me sick... seabeyond Apr 2014 #37
And ya. That is kinda the point being a guy and all. Rape? Meh seabeyond Apr 2014 #36
Yep. Not worth conversing with someone who doesn't hear. n/t seaglass Apr 2014 #40
The books suck ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #18
After last night's episode I am questioning whether I will continue to watch this show. Loved the seaglass Apr 2014 #20
this is what the executives have said. this is their intent. they have made it clear. it is on seabeyond Apr 2014 #21
it is.... intent. someone did a post on the intent. with racism i think. sheshe i think. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #22
I'm sure I would look at it differenlty if I had children BainsBane Apr 2014 #28
I read it as a rape in the book too. bravenak Apr 2014 #27
A painful example of why directors--especially male ones-- geek tragedy Apr 2014 #29
In general rape is entertainment. It is our norm. What line to cross in deviance with women now seabeyond Apr 2014 #38
Latest article from the New York Times theHandpuppet May 2014 #42
everyone can continue to use the excuse that it was/(is) the ugly reality all they want. an excuse. seabeyond May 2014 #43
So anyone who says that GoT portrays a brutal world is justifying rape? Violet_Crumble May 2014 #45
I think that article's wrong... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #44
Wasn't that Sansa, who was saved from being raped? BainsBane May 2014 #46
That was all happening at the same time when they all got separated... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #47
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