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lostincalifornia

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7. You are asking a question about how people are brought up. I don't have to tell you what people
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 06:48 PM
Apr 2014

used to consider entertainment, from killings in an arena in Rome, to boxing, and animal fights.

Since you are asking me if I am being "entertained" by such things the answer is no. However, the book does have characters, and a story line, and though there is rape and incest in the books, it sometimes is for the plot. The incest between Jamie and sister gave us Joffrey, who readers would link his cruelty and sadism to that, which is part of the story. Danny was abused, and treated badly, but arose from that cruelty to become a leader, also part of the story.

So your extrapolation that the rape is put in there for "entertainment" is a distortion. Those are incidents are part of the story. Cersie verses Danny is a perfect example of how two characters evolve. One is cruel, and the other is trying to do what is best for her people.

I disagree with your interpretation that the rape and sex are what this story is all about. It is about power, and the means the different characters use to attain it. If the only thing you take away from the books is that it is about "rape and child abuse", then you have missed the whole point of the books.

Putting distasteful things in a story line is NOT to glorify it, not in this case, and I suspect you are too single focused on that, which is part of a story of fiction, when real incidents need to be addressed, not works of fiction

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game of thrones [View all] seabeyond Apr 2014 OP
If you notice on the credits R.R. Martin was involved in the screen play. Regardless, the books lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #1
Rape as entertainment. Rape of men and children reality. Are you being entertained with man and seabeyond Apr 2014 #2
You are asking a question about how people are brought up. I don't have to tell you what people lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #7
i disagree. i think raping women and girls has become the ew norm in entertainment. and this is a seabeyond Apr 2014 #9
A Song of Fire and Ice portrays a world that really is shit for women Scootaloo Apr 2014 #3
There is scarcely a decent human being in the series BainsBane Apr 2014 #6
You should read the books. I'm halfway through 'A Feast For Crows' Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #14
"I was just starting to like Jamie" Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #15
Then last night they have him be decent BainsBane Apr 2014 #34
Fine, for that incident I have no idea why it was changed, but the book itself is full that behavior lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #8
how many explicit rape scenes of men, that would comapre to rape of women, have you seen on that seabeyond Apr 2014 #10
Frankly, I didn't read the books or when I do watch it view it that way. Sorry I don't fit into lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #11
the point is obvious. in our face. and still, instead of just syaing it is what it is. we like to seabeyond Apr 2014 #12
How can you say that when you haven't even watched the show? BainsBane Apr 2014 #13
Sea, this was womens reality. boston bean Apr 2014 #16
i am tired of greater and greater graphic rape, sexualized, more drawn out seabeyond Apr 2014 #19
Have you got a link to HBO saying that? Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #39
The rape scene in question lasts exactly 42 seconds. During the entire scene, Flatulo Apr 2014 #41
There have been 3 or 4 penis shots, including Flatulo Apr 2014 #23
and.....people find that entertaining? Skittles Apr 2014 #26
Apparently so. It is a smash hit by any metric. Flatulo Apr 2014 #30
to each their own Skittles Apr 2014 #33
I used the episode as a teaching took for my granddaughter..... AuntPatsy Apr 2014 #4
For more insightful commentary... LuvLoogie Apr 2014 #5
You're right of course. Men and childten were raped, too, but that isn't put on screen, redqueen Apr 2014 #17
Well, severing Theon's penis was pretty harsh, but they Flatulo Apr 2014 #24
That's kind of the point though. We know it happens. We don't have to see it, never mind being seaglass Apr 2014 #25
The character Cearce is raped once. There is one other non-consensual sex scene, Flatulo Apr 2014 #31
I think those women were being raped by the rebels last night BainsBane Apr 2014 #32
Yes they were being raped. It was mentioned in the book, not emphasized as HBO did. It's really seaglass Apr 2014 #35
Just reading the conversations on this show literally makes me sick... seabeyond Apr 2014 #37
And ya. That is kinda the point being a guy and all. Rape? Meh seabeyond Apr 2014 #36
Yep. Not worth conversing with someone who doesn't hear. n/t seaglass Apr 2014 #40
The books suck ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #18
After last night's episode I am questioning whether I will continue to watch this show. Loved the seaglass Apr 2014 #20
this is what the executives have said. this is their intent. they have made it clear. it is on seabeyond Apr 2014 #21
it is.... intent. someone did a post on the intent. with racism i think. sheshe i think. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #22
I'm sure I would look at it differenlty if I had children BainsBane Apr 2014 #28
I read it as a rape in the book too. bravenak Apr 2014 #27
A painful example of why directors--especially male ones-- geek tragedy Apr 2014 #29
In general rape is entertainment. It is our norm. What line to cross in deviance with women now seabeyond Apr 2014 #38
Latest article from the New York Times theHandpuppet May 2014 #42
everyone can continue to use the excuse that it was/(is) the ugly reality all they want. an excuse. seabeyond May 2014 #43
So anyone who says that GoT portrays a brutal world is justifying rape? Violet_Crumble May 2014 #45
I think that article's wrong... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #44
Wasn't that Sansa, who was saved from being raped? BainsBane May 2014 #46
That was all happening at the same time when they all got separated... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #47
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