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Blue_Adept

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15. "I was just starting to like Jamie"

Sun Apr 27, 2014, 06:41 AM

Apr 2014

Part of it was that point I think, though Graves went about it the wrong way. Practically nobody is likable in this series and Jaime's redemption of sorts as we saw in the third season with Brienne was one that had a lot of people coming to his side after learning his true past with the Kingslayer title. He became a lot more sympathetic. And while Martin didn't write this episode, the series as a whole largely paints us a cast that are hugely flawed and those flaws - particularly in powerful people - outstrip common sense.

The TV show has obviously taken a different route in time structure when it comes to the Cersei and Jaime relationship, drawing it out since his return rather than it being much shorter and making him more intense in his craving for her - and her of him. I'm definitely uncomfortable with the scene - but that's true of many scenes in the show.

But in the end, I always have to think that the only good character died in the first season with Ned. What few "good" characters there are left are all going to be twisted by the harshness of the world.

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game of thrones [View all] seabeyond Apr 2014 OP

If you notice on the credits R.R. Martin was involved in the screen play. Regardless, the books lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #1

Rape as entertainment. Rape of men and children reality. Are you being entertained with man and seabeyond Apr 2014 #2

You are asking a question about how people are brought up. I don't have to tell you what people lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #7

i disagree. i think raping women and girls has become the ew norm in entertainment. and this is a seabeyond Apr 2014 #9

A Song of Fire and Ice portrays a world that really is shit for women Scootaloo Apr 2014 #3

There is scarcely a decent human being in the series BainsBane Apr 2014 #6

You should read the books. I'm halfway through 'A Feast For Crows' Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #14

"I was just starting to like Jamie" Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #15

Then last night they have him be decent BainsBane Apr 2014 #34

Fine, for that incident I have no idea why it was changed, but the book itself is full that behavior lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #8

how many explicit rape scenes of men, that would comapre to rape of women, have you seen on that seabeyond Apr 2014 #10

Frankly, I didn't read the books or when I do watch it view it that way. Sorry I don't fit into lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #11

the point is obvious. in our face. and still, instead of just syaing it is what it is. we like to seabeyond Apr 2014 #12

How can you say that when you haven't even watched the show? BainsBane Apr 2014 #13

Sea, this was womens reality. boston bean Apr 2014 #16

i am tired of greater and greater graphic rape, sexualized, more drawn out seabeyond Apr 2014 #19

Have you got a link to HBO saying that? Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #39

The rape scene in question lasts exactly 42 seconds. During the entire scene, Flatulo Apr 2014 #41

There have been 3 or 4 penis shots, including Flatulo Apr 2014 #23

and.....people find that entertaining? Skittles Apr 2014 #26

Apparently so. It is a smash hit by any metric. Flatulo Apr 2014 #30

to each their own Skittles Apr 2014 #33

I used the episode as a teaching took for my granddaughter..... AuntPatsy Apr 2014 #4

For more insightful commentary... LuvLoogie Apr 2014 #5

You're right of course. Men and childten were raped, too, but that isn't put on screen, redqueen Apr 2014 #17

Well, severing Theon's penis was pretty harsh, but they Flatulo Apr 2014 #24

That's kind of the point though. We know it happens. We don't have to see it, never mind being seaglass Apr 2014 #25

The character Cearce is raped once. There is one other non-consensual sex scene, Flatulo Apr 2014 #31

I think those women were being raped by the rebels last night BainsBane Apr 2014 #32

Yes they were being raped. It was mentioned in the book, not emphasized as HBO did. It's really seaglass Apr 2014 #35

Just reading the conversations on this show literally makes me sick... seabeyond Apr 2014 #37

And ya. That is kinda the point being a guy and all. Rape? Meh seabeyond Apr 2014 #36

Yep. Not worth conversing with someone who doesn't hear. n/t seaglass Apr 2014 #40

The books suck ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #18

After last night's episode I am questioning whether I will continue to watch this show. Loved the seaglass Apr 2014 #20

this is what the executives have said. this is their intent. they have made it clear. it is on seabeyond Apr 2014 #21

it is.... intent. someone did a post on the intent. with racism i think. sheshe i think. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #22

I'm sure I would look at it differenlty if I had children BainsBane Apr 2014 #28

I read it as a rape in the book too. bravenak Apr 2014 #27

A painful example of why directors--especially male ones-- geek tragedy Apr 2014 #29

In general rape is entertainment. It is our norm. What line to cross in deviance with women now seabeyond Apr 2014 #38

Latest article from the New York Times theHandpuppet May 2014 #42

everyone can continue to use the excuse that it was/(is) the ugly reality all they want. an excuse. seabeyond May 2014 #43

So anyone who says that GoT portrays a brutal world is justifying rape? Violet_Crumble May 2014 #45

I think that article's wrong... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #44

Wasn't that Sansa, who was saved from being raped? BainsBane May 2014 #46

That was all happening at the same time when they all got separated... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #47