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History of Feminism

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eridani

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Thu May 22, 2014, 03:43 AM May 2014

In the Real World, the So-Called ‘Boy Crisis’ Disappears [View all]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/179914/real-world-so-called-boy-crisis-disappears#

School was all about following the directions and reaping the rewards. Getting ahead outside of school, I eventually figured out, meant figuring out rules that weren’t written down.

This real world lesson is a harsh one for girls especially. On the whole, we excel in school. We have for one hundred years. We nearly always get better grades. We are better behaved. Tell us to do our homework, raise our hand and sit still, and girls are much more likely to obey than boys. We’re also now attending college and completing degrees in higher numbers than young men.

This has some observers—from conservative Kay Hymowitz to centrist David Brooks to contrarian Hanna Rosin to mainstream David Leonhardt—worried that there is a boy crisis. If today’s boys are falling behind on self-control as well as grades, while women race ahead and get more degrees, will tomorrow’s flounder in the workplace?

But while we socialize girls to be better students, we do little to prepare them for a workplace that is not an even playing field. They leave school, a world full of clearly laid out rules and rewards, and move into a workplace that is tilted against them from the very beginning. Young women fresh out of college will make less than their male classmates in their first job, no matter what school they went to, major they chose, grades they got or job they took. That wage gap will continue to grow as their careers advance. They’ll make less than men in virtually any job they pursue. Even if they decide to go back to the structured world of academia and gain an extra credential like an advanced degree—something that the on-paper rules tell us should help them advance—they’ll still make less than a man with the same credential.
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And there are people who flat out deny this ismnotwasm May 2014 #1
I'll probably get flamed for this ... jimlup May 2014 #2
Except when they get out of school, that doesn't matter anymore n/t eridani May 2014 #4
That's just not true jimlup May 2014 #5
What you are talking about is a generational problem eridani May 2014 #6
"But I guess some of them here just care about hating men." You just lost all credibility, frankly. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #7
My credibility isn't the issue jimlup May 2014 #9
I have no problem with "asking honest questions." What I object to is the implication that feminism nomorenomore08 May 2014 #10
Nor did I say that jimlup May 2014 #11
Fair enough. I just don't like it when feminists are unfairly smeared as "man haters" - to me nomorenomore08 May 2014 #12
Except that there are cases in which it is true.... jimlup May 2014 #15
I'm glad you're doing your part to improve things. And I didn't mean to give the impression nomorenomore08 May 2014 #16
Glad we've reached a position of mutual jimlup May 2014 #17
No problem. I think your heart is in the right place. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #18
as far as the issue with school. boys are doing better today than anytime in history. seabeyond May 2014 #21
Join VDay ismnotwasm May 2014 #19
"all men are guilty of rape" bullshit. seabeyond May 2014 #20
Many feminists DO still care about the welfare of society....of BOTH genders. I'm an example. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #13
except it is mostly feminist that are discussing the outmodeled patriarchy model for our boys. seabeyond May 2014 #22
Job hunting sucks, and connections trump qualifications IronLionZion May 2014 #3
+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #8
Me too. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #14
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