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ismnotwasm

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14. From Skepchick
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:44 PM
May 2014
Society tells men that if they’re “Nice Guys,” they are entitled to women’s bodies and time. So you can’t be surprised when some men take that as an edict to take what is theirs by violence. You certainly can’t be surprised that men like Elliot Rodger think violence is justified, when Men’s Rights leaders like Paul Elam tell their readers to beat up women:

“I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won’t fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles. And then make them clean up the mess.”
Of course, instead of talking about these issues, the media will likely default to the usual armchair diagnosis and hand-wringing fuckery about how Elliot Rodger was “crazy” and “mentally unstable.” It has already begun with Sheriff Brown who told reporters,”It’s obviously the work of a madman.” Spoiler Alert: Unless you were Elliot Rodger’s therapist, you don’t get to diagnose him. To do so is not only actively contributing to mental illness stigmatization, but it’s perfectly plausible that it’s not even accurate. To quote Miri Mogilevsky of Brute Reason, “It is not actually ‘crazy’ to believe stuff that’s been shoved down your throat from birth.”

http://skepchick.org/2014/05/alpha-male-elliot-rodgers-retribution/

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Yes, because going on a shooting spree is the epitome of gentlemanliness. KitSileya May 2014 #1
His video sounded a lot like what reading the Mens Rights websites. boston bean May 2014 #2
Yes, because to Nice Guys (tm), women aren't persons with desires of their own. KitSileya May 2014 #3
That and the fact that he would "punish" the women for rejecting him. Don't forget the Squinch May 2014 #15
Isn't this the same motivation for the "corrective rape" of lesbians? theHandpuppet May 2014 #19
And all of it boils back to Squinch May 2014 #22
Yep, right down to the "nice guy" meme BainsBane May 2014 #21
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/24/1301671/-Elliot-Roger-Gunman-in-California-Mass-Shooting-wa LiberalLoner May 2014 #4
yeah this transcript of that video boston bean May 2014 #5
Gentleman? Yeah...kill six people because WhiteTara May 2014 #6
Oh my God ismnotwasm May 2014 #7
He couldn't get hot blondes, so they had to be anihilated. boston bean May 2014 #8
We always question and debate the motives of the latest killers, but the one inconvenient truth, FailureToCommunicate May 2014 #9
google him ellennelle May 2014 #10
what a spoiled, narcissistic, pompous little sociopath magical thyme May 2014 #11
and the comments are just as vile- asking why didn't he just rape a slut? WTFingF? bettyellen May 2014 #12
you hear this crap about "stuck up women" who "should" be with X, like women should not have choice bettyellen May 2014 #13
From Skepchick ismnotwasm May 2014 #14
There already appears to be some effort to blame Aspergers sydrome. Though I have seen nothing Squinch May 2014 #16
FFS ismnotwasm May 2014 #17
I know a lot of people with it. I almost never see malice in them. Much less often than in so-called Squinch May 2014 #20
Same here theHandpuppet May 2014 #23
BUt I haven't even seen anything official that says he has any such diagnosis. I might have missed Squinch May 2014 #24
It was in one of the news reports theHandpuppet May 2014 #27
No, don't go searching. Thanks for telling me that. Squinch May 2014 #28
the psycho-killer vibe isn't an appealing one BainsBane May 2014 #18
I would think that the women he approached could easiky Flatulo May 2014 #29
The desire to hurt others is a serious problem in this country IronLionZion May 2014 #25
OMFG. Another SMFR* with a pathological sense of entitlement DinahMoeHum May 2014 #26
No reason for flames I can see. You're spot on. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #30
You won't get flames from me, that's for sure. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #31
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