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ConservativeDemocrat

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7. I'm genuinely curious about what what you think would have prevented this...

Sun May 25, 2014, 12:51 AM

May 2014

Every time one of these tragedies happens, there's always the reflexive attempt by culture warriors to tie the insane nutball to some group they hate, trying to tar them all with the same brush.

Already this clown is being called "a classic example of Limousine Liberal child rearing" by nutcases on the other side, for instance.

But it always peters out because nobody ever manages to tie this to an actual policy that could have prevented the tragedy from happening.

So, aside from the tweets inviting everyone to feel really really sanctimonious about not hating women, and using the word "misogony" a lot, what exactly are you suggesting the nation do in terms of policy, and how exactly would that have changed the outcome of this tragedy?

Please don't tell me sensitivity training would have changed the behavior of a mass murderer. That's almost as stupid as the NRA arming everyone to the teeth.

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We need to talk about misogyny [View all] redqueen May 2014 OP

Amen shenmue May 2014 #1

Truth! nt sheshe2 May 2014 #2

I was told the very fact I posted the Daily Kos article BainsBane May 2014 #3

Seriously disturbing, flashing-red-neon sign type tells there. redqueen May 2014 #5

add to that BainsBane May 2014 #11

Anyone who bloviates that much about "hating men" is the opposite of a feminist. redqueen May 2014 #13

and yet fails to provide a single example of such man-hating when queried BainsBane May 2014 #14

Someone was in this group bloviating about man-hating recently. redqueen May 2014 #17

Good point. theHandpuppet May 2014 #29

that person ought to be ppr'ed, he is seriously fucked up. or playing a fuckin game to giggle with seabeyond May 2014 #21

My view is that it's a game BainsBane May 2014 #28

Is that from that moron? ismnotwasm May 2014 #31

I hope you alerted on that gollygee May 2014 #35

Babe? Ugh. Flatulo May 2014 #43

I see there are some guys who totally get it. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #4

Maybe around here, yeah. redqueen May 2014 #6

'tis BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #8

And then there are those of us who don't give a good goddamn who gets "offended" Scootaloo May 2014 #10

For my own part, I've put most of the biggest offenders on ignore. Maedhros May 2014 #63

I'm genuinely curious about what what you think would have prevented this... ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #7

You need to go back to GD redqueen May 2014 #12

In GD BainsBane May 2014 #15

Actually, I said nothing of the sort ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #22

Really? You decided to make that case because of a preposition? BainsBane May 2014 #23

I care about facts ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #25

Concerns about misogyny are not sniping BainsBane May 2014 #26

Ugh! Don't listen to this idiot. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #90

Teach them well then dude, teach them well ismnotwasm May 2014 #33

If people would just google before they started typing, I wouldn't have to teach ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #42

Whoa ismnotwasm May 2014 #44

And you hurt my feelings. seabeyond May 2014 #67

Yeah, all better now. ismnotwasm May 2014 #68

ooosh. that was close. lol. i had the couch ready though. we women, take care of each other. nt seabeyond May 2014 #70

Yup ismnotwasm May 2014 #77

Whilst yet others may detest insincere posts masquerading as righteous dialectic. LanternWaste May 2014 #86

I would say that extreme behavior is a symptom of deep undercurrents in society. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #16

Violent and/or threatening speech should certainly be taken more seriously than it is in many cases. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #56

Thanks! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #92

Yet when misogyny is on parade in daily political life The Traveler May 2014 #18

+the GOP congressman BainsBane May 2014 #19

That is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about! The Traveler May 2014 #20

I completely agree with you about the GOP's misogony ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #24

I suggest you review gender-based killing then nt ismnotwasm May 2014 #34

Reviewed - men do the most killing. Duh. ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #41

Duh? ismnotwasm May 2014 #45

Social media is almost comically ineffective ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #48

There are many people who have learned from online social justice movements. redqueen May 2014 #49

Got any facts to back that up? ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #55

What would your alternative be? ismnotwasm May 2014 #57

It's hard for me to say ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #61

Actually I talked to a school administrator who suggested the same thing ismnotwasm May 2014 #65

I think the big fight is to stop the normalization of violence... ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #81

Interesting reply ismnotwasm May 2014 #88

Why are you still in this group? redqueen May 2014 #62

Social Media campaigns, and discussion boards, blog posts etc. are mostly for raising awareness IronLionZion May 2014 #79

A few academics may disagree with your allegation that social media is "comically ineffective" LanternWaste May 2014 #87

I'm not quite sure how to respond to that amazing assertion The Traveler May 2014 #47

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #59

Well if you're going to blame the parents, just come out and say so... ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #60

Not just daily political life but daily religious life theHandpuppet May 2014 #32

I don't suppose there are any additional comments now to what I wrote here? theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #89

Yes. yuiyoshida May 2014 #9

Exactly. Men murdering women who reject them are pretty common. SunSeeker May 2014 #27

Most of the time its just ignored. They have to kill a bunch of women to be considered newsworthy. redqueen May 2014 #37

Thank you for continuing to address chervilant May 2014 #30

I especially love the "gender wars" dumbshittery. redqueen May 2014 #38

"More women are finding their voices every day." too true. and seabeyond May 2014 #69

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #91

Once again Redqueen you say what needs to be said. thucythucy May 2014 #36

I'm happy to share it here redqueen May 2014 #39

The article I read today pointed out that this has happened in that town before by another "spurned" JTFrog May 2014 #40

wow. interesting. hm... thanks. nt seabeyond May 2014 #71

Honestly, it's long past time for the mass media to stop skating around this problem. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #46

people would have to get honest. that would include the good guys. yes. it is time. and it does seabeyond May 2014 #72

There are two things I am amazed about in the coverage and discussion of this event: Squinch May 2014 #50

I've never considered DU what I'd call a woman-friendly space theHandpuppet May 2014 #51

No, I don't either. The idea that women should be able Squinch May 2014 #54

I can tell in 2 seconds if the man I'm talking to hates or is afraid of women. Peregrine Took May 2014 #52

How do you deal with the men who are afraid of women? IronLionZion May 2014 #53

Gently ismnotwasm May 2014 #58

What is this 'afraid' of women shit? redqueen May 2014 #64

Fear isn't the same as misogyny ismnotwasm May 2014 #66

hmmm. i was told by a man, that men are simply fearful, afraid of women. women get beaten, raped, seabeyond May 2014 #73

I'm thinking more of extreme shyness I guess ismnotwasm May 2014 #74

ya. cause when i was reading your post, i know there are some men i am way more gentle with, seabeyond May 2014 #75

My husband found it-he was around but I don't remember him. ismnotwasm May 2014 #76

A woman can do anything a man can do IronLionZion May 2014 #78

just putting this here, a thought germinating in my head not, fully formed Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #80

I would like to add that yuiyoshida May 2014 #82

I'm not at all surprised, of course. redqueen May 2014 #83

I expect this board to be a step ahead ... i KNOOOOW. i know. and here i sit with repug males more seabeyond May 2014 #84

i have had an interesting time with both the P and the B word. and good for you, the steps seabeyond May 2014 #85

I hear you seabeyond! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #93

Great post redqueen! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #94