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Showing Original Post only (View all)Oldest depiction of female form shows that modern archaeologists are pornsick misogynists [View all]
Ever so sorry! That should read "SOME modern archaeologists are pornsick misogynists"
This is old but I stumbled across it again so I thought I'd post it.
Just as an aside, I wonder if there was a retraction or apology from Science Now or Nature.
The Earliest Pornography says Science Now, describing the 35,000 year old ivory figurine thats been dug up in a cave near Stuttgart. The tiny statuette is of a female with exaggerated breasts and vulva. According to Paul Mellars, one of the archaeologist twits who commented on the find for Nature, this makes the figurine pornographic. Nature is even titling its article, Prehistoric Pin Up.
Its the Venus of Willendorf double standard all over again. Ancient figures of naked pregnant women are interpreted by smirking male archaeologists as pornography, while equally sexualized images of men are assumed to depict gods or shamans. Or even hunters or warriors. Funny, huh?
Consider: phallic images from the Paleolithic are at least 28,000 years old. Neolithic cultures all over the world seemed to have a thing for sculptures with enormous erect phalluses. Ancient civilizations were awash in images of male genitalia, from the Indian lingam to the Egyptian benben to the Greek herm. The Romans even painted phalluses on their doors and wore phallic charms around their necks.ncc imagery as pornography. Instead, its understood to indicate reverence for male sexual potency. No one, for example, has ever suggested that the Lascaux cave dude was a pin-up; hes assumed to be a shaman. The ithyphallic figurines from the Neolithic and there are many are interpreted as gods. And everyone knows that the phalluses of ancient India and Egypt and Greece and Rome represented awesome divine powers of fertility and protection.
Yet an ancient figurine of a nude woman a life-giving woman, with her vulva ready to bring forth a new human being, and her milk-filled breasts ready to nourish that being is interpreted as pornography. Just something for a man to whack off to.
Its not as if theres no other context in which to interpret the figure. After all, the European Paleolithic is chock full of pregnant-looking female statuettes that are quite similar to this one. By the time we get to the Neolithic, the naked pregnant female is enthroned with lions at her feet, and its clear that people are worshipping some kind of female god.
Yet in the Science Now article, the archaeologist who found the figurine is talking about pornographic pin-ups: I showed it to a male colleague, and his response was, Nothings changed in 40,000 years. That sentence needs to be bronzed and hung up on a plaque somewhere, because you couldnt ask for a better demonstration of the classic fallacy of reading the present into the past. The archaeologist assumes the artist who created the figurine was male; why? He assumes the motive was lust; why? Because thats all he knows. To his mind, the image of a naked woman with big breasts and exposed vulva can only mean one thing: porn! Porn made by men, for men! And so he assumes, without questioning his assumptions, that the image must have meant the same thing 35,000 years ago. No other mental categories for naked woman are available to him. His mind is a closed box.
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http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/05/14/oldest-depiction-of-female-form-shows-that-modern-archaeologists-are-pornsick-misogynists/
Its the Venus of Willendorf double standard all over again. Ancient figures of naked pregnant women are interpreted by smirking male archaeologists as pornography, while equally sexualized images of men are assumed to depict gods or shamans. Or even hunters or warriors. Funny, huh?
Consider: phallic images from the Paleolithic are at least 28,000 years old. Neolithic cultures all over the world seemed to have a thing for sculptures with enormous erect phalluses. Ancient civilizations were awash in images of male genitalia, from the Indian lingam to the Egyptian benben to the Greek herm. The Romans even painted phalluses on their doors and wore phallic charms around their necks.ncc imagery as pornography. Instead, its understood to indicate reverence for male sexual potency. No one, for example, has ever suggested that the Lascaux cave dude was a pin-up; hes assumed to be a shaman. The ithyphallic figurines from the Neolithic and there are many are interpreted as gods. And everyone knows that the phalluses of ancient India and Egypt and Greece and Rome represented awesome divine powers of fertility and protection.
Yet an ancient figurine of a nude woman a life-giving woman, with her vulva ready to bring forth a new human being, and her milk-filled breasts ready to nourish that being is interpreted as pornography. Just something for a man to whack off to.
Its not as if theres no other context in which to interpret the figure. After all, the European Paleolithic is chock full of pregnant-looking female statuettes that are quite similar to this one. By the time we get to the Neolithic, the naked pregnant female is enthroned with lions at her feet, and its clear that people are worshipping some kind of female god.
Yet in the Science Now article, the archaeologist who found the figurine is talking about pornographic pin-ups: I showed it to a male colleague, and his response was, Nothings changed in 40,000 years. That sentence needs to be bronzed and hung up on a plaque somewhere, because you couldnt ask for a better demonstration of the classic fallacy of reading the present into the past. The archaeologist assumes the artist who created the figurine was male; why? He assumes the motive was lust; why? Because thats all he knows. To his mind, the image of a naked woman with big breasts and exposed vulva can only mean one thing: porn! Porn made by men, for men! And so he assumes, without questioning his assumptions, that the image must have meant the same thing 35,000 years ago. No other mental categories for naked woman are available to him. His mind is a closed box.
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http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/05/14/oldest-depiction-of-female-form-shows-that-modern-archaeologists-are-pornsick-misogynists/
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redqueen
Jun 2014
OP
"...seeing sex as pornography seems to me a way to control and commodify human sexual behavior."
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#13
Hard to see the David/Jonathan story as anything but a romance. Also the story of Jesus healing
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#15
I was a lit major in college - had to write analytical essays on all sorts of texts -
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#18