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redqueen

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60. It's unreal, isn't it?

Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:59 AM

Jun 2014

Goddess forbid anyone focus on clearly separating sex and rape.

Someone has to show up and do the Devil's Advocate routine (insert wanking smiley).

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"Consensual sex" is just sex. [View all] redqueen Jun 2014 OP

Yup! TexasProgresive Jun 2014 #1

If someone is under age...they cannot consent...THAT is what it is referring to... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #2

Thats rape. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #4

Statutory rape has the potential to be both. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #12

Rape and sex are mutually exclusive. A minor CANNOT give consent, so it's non-consensual thus rape. Squinch Jun 2014 #13

A minor can give consent. What is legal and what is ethical are not the same... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #14

Again, a minor CANNOT give consent. Squinch Jun 2014 #15

What your argument amounts to is the eschewing of reality... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #17

How does what I am saying differ from saying "statutory rape is rape" which you agree with below? Squinch Jun 2014 #19

A 15 year old is of the legal age to consent in some states. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #20

Barring Romeo and Juliet exceptions, no there are no states where 14 or 15 are the ages of consent. Squinch Jun 2014 #21

I think he's thinking of other countries. redqueen Jun 2014 #22

I'd prefer to stay far away from them. Squinch Jun 2014 #23

You did not answer my question. What is the point of having an age of consent? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #24

It is not a false sense of protection. It is a protection. Squinch Jun 2014 #25

The creepy assholes who talk about how "she acted older than her age..." Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #51

"statutory rape has the potential to be both consensual sex and rape." JTFrog Jun 2014 #58

It's unreal, isn't it? redqueen Jun 2014 #60

Please read my other posts in here. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jun 2014 #80

Two minors have sex. Who's the rapist? They both engaged in what would legally be MADem Jun 2014 #54

Neither would be considered guilty of statuatory rape in most states BainsBane Jun 2014 #55

It's interesting how often this is brought up in threads about rape. redqueen Jun 2014 #61

What if they are both males? Both females? MADem Jun 2014 #64

The adult is the rapist. The person who breaks the law is the rapist BainsBane Jun 2014 #66

No adults. That was my point. No priests, no perverts. MADem Jun 2014 #74

If they are both kids, there is no crime BainsBane Jun 2014 #76

That doesn't stop the state from bringing charges. See post 78. nt MADem Jun 2014 #79

Romeo and Juliet is not the law in all fifty states. Further, children below the age of consent MADem Jun 2014 #63

Your articles aren't don't deal with Romeo and Juliet cases BainsBane Jun 2014 #65

And this is why ignore this obvious red herring every time. redqueen Jun 2014 #69

You started this thread, and I thought it was about the definition of "consensual sex" MADem Jun 2014 #78

No, those articles were illustrating my OTHER point, that children who are too young MADem Jun 2014 #75

Statutory rape is rape. redqueen Jun 2014 #16

Statutory rape is rape, you are correct. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #18

Bravo. Exactly. And of course I agree. Rape. Use the word. Nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Laffy Kat Jun 2014 #5

Disagree strongly. I've been beat up, and I've been raped, and there is a world of difference. redqueen Jun 2014 #6

Sorry, Redqueen. Laffy Kat Jun 2014 #7

No need to apologize... redqueen Jun 2014 #8

It is a learning process. That was one of the simplest, humblest apologies I have seen on DU Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #9

i thought so also, when i read the post hours ago. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #10

yes and for some odd reason apologies has been on my mind today - evidently Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #11

You mean for this? RiffRandell Jun 2014 #26

Are you seriously still wearing that raggedy old dress? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author RiffRandell Jun 2014 #28

Lol Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author RiffRandell Jun 2014 #30

You mad? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #31

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #32

You sound unhinged. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #34

Rather than flipping out because of what you think BainsBane Jun 2014 #38

You know how many times I've forgiven people and they've never offered and apology. boston bean Jun 2014 #39

Some people live for conflict BainsBane Jun 2014 #41

I was willing to move on, but it keeps being brought up. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #42

Just move on, is my advice. boston bean Jun 2014 #44

Whereas I was told off BainsBane Jun 2014 #46

An apology is always nice. It's up to the wronged person to accept it or not or boston bean Jun 2014 #47

It was clear that in my case BainsBane Jun 2014 #48

I agree. I find it to be very distasteful to try and force someone into boston bean Jun 2014 #49

Are you saying I'm not welcome here? RiffRandell Jun 2014 #40

Perhaps if you once tried to participate in a discussion without attacking posters here BainsBane Jun 2014 #43

"It's sad that you and others are bringing this group down." JTFrog Jun 2014 #57

Knock this shit off in this group. boston bean Jun 2014 #33

Done. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #35

No reason for it, it was personal bullshit way below the belt. boston bean Jun 2014 #36

You are very welcome. nt RiffRandell Jun 2014 #37

What you call a lie BainsBane Jun 2014 #45

She apologized twice in this thread BainsBane Jun 2014 #50

and i just thought that one poster did a good job of accepting another perspective. that was all. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #52

ya. i saw that somewhere. cant remember where. i did however have a terrific seabeyond Jun 2014 #53

What the hell is going on in this thread? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #56

It is my fault. I apologize for anything I ever said to RiffRandell. I hope this apology is accepted Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #59

It's kinda routine at this point. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #62

Maybe this can be a turning point, redqueen. I just received a PM from Riff and she accepted my Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #71

Well, this thread sure sparked a lot of hair-splitting and redirection. MadrasT Jun 2014 #67

Someone is 'laying down the law' in differentiating sex from rape? redqueen Jun 2014 #70

LOL Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #73

yes, Please see my post #71 in this thread. Let us all quit deflecting and move forward. There are Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #72

Basically how I feel about it. ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #77