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38. Bad comparison

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 07:02 PM

Sep 2014

I would compare a fetus to a sapling. Something that has begun its journey to treedom. An acorn is pretty much inert. Also, no one is calling for an end to menstruation, so on that, we all agree. We begin to disagree as the fetus develops.

I have no objection for seabeyond to speak FOR it. If you've read my posts in this thread, you know I am 100% pro-choice. I would be bothered if some bible thumper came here and spoke against it for the same reasons seabeyond objects. The problem here though is that the first-timer made absolutely no comment that was anti-abortion. S/He was put off by seabeyond's dismissal of a fetus as anything more than organic tissue. I disagree with that too. I think the first-timer was wrong to call her thinking "sick", but hardly worth alerting.

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first time poster on du spewing anti abortion shit, stands. [View all] seabeyond Sep 2014 OP

The.post.was.not.anti-abortion.shit, elleng Sep 2014 #1

you want a discussion with a man stating at some point in the 10 months the fetus becomes a child? seabeyond Sep 2014 #3

How do you know duracraft is a man? [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2014 #5

an educated guess. you want to put it to the test? oh wait. hit and run. he is not replying seabeyond Sep 2014 #7

by the way, an issue as big as womens bodily autonomy and reproductive rights, i see you nailed seabeyond Sep 2014 #9

seabeyond, I think the poster was just being curious, that's all. Demit Sep 2014 #18

why.do.you.use.periods.between.words? uppityperson Sep 2014 #11

Loaner.computer.space.bar.not.working, elleng Sep 2014 #12

Aha, that makes sense. I had a problem with my keyboard collecting cat fur and things not working. uppityperson Sep 2014 #13

I.do.try.to.make.sense, elleng Sep 2014 #14

I kill keyboards and mice with alarming regularity Warpy Sep 2014 #20

Not.a.habit.of.mine. elleng Sep 2014 #23

OMG!!! chervilant Sep 2014 #57

Your decision supported regressive anti woman BULLSHIT. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #77

No,my.decision.supported.discussion, elleng Sep 2014 #80

Abortion, anytime, on demand. There is no discussion. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #82

i appreciate your sincerity in your vote. he was a one time poster, hit. he had no interest seabeyond Sep 2014 #84

It.seems.to.me.the.hyper-heated.response.to.perceived.trolls elleng Sep 2014 #88

then lets not have any boundaries at all and be DI? seabeyond Sep 2014 #90

Not.useful,imo, elleng Sep 2014 #92

using the phrase "intellectually dishonest drivel" on a topic which PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #91

that is the point. he is an obvious troll. and we play all around it. i thought the hide would be seabeyond Sep 2014 #94

Yes, "intellectually dishonest drivel" MadrasT Sep 2014 #124

I very seldom vote "Hide" On that one, I would. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #2

good to know. i am really looking to see, if i am just so far off on this. my perception totally seabeyond Sep 2014 #4

Somebody is here for ...what? 3 minutes?? and they get to insult you?? I think not. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #8

Totally agree theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #47

I disagree with the poster bluestateguy Sep 2014 #6

democratic board? looking around. progressive ideas and thoughts? seabeyond Sep 2014 #10

wtf. "There is no constitutional right to not be offended"? uppityperson Sep 2014 #15

Then you won't be offended if I say, "Bull" theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #48

always disgusted me mopinko Sep 2014 #16

That poster does not have JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #17

Oh, I think responders are doing a good job on that jerk Warpy Sep 2014 #19

tos has nothing to do with letting a post stand. that is community standard. the administration seabeyond Sep 2014 #21

An anti-abortion stance on DU is acceptable per Skinner ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #22

I know Democrats that are still pissed the JoeyT Sep 2014 #40

Yup, I have had a few private conversations with him about it as well. Bullshit. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #45

+1000 theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #49

Yup ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #99

Read the first two lines first! Cartoonist Sep 2014 #24

seriously? Answer that one, seabeyond. seabeyond Sep 2014 #25

Well? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #26

you have absolutely no reason to reach an outrageous conclusion. so, the youngest is 21 weeks and seabeyond Sep 2014 #27

Why won't you answer the question? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #30

Jury results oneshooter Sep 2014 #60

Actually a fetus is whatever a individual woman says it is ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #116

picking out a time to call a fetus, a child during gestation can in no way lead you to conclude seabeyond Sep 2014 #28

Good response more than obvious what's going on, breathe AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #29

Just what is going on? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #32

because DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #37

I am with you, Don Cartoonist Sep 2014 #41

None of your business. Keep repeating that. It really is: None of Your Business. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #119

and ALL of those decisions are up to the Woman. And is really None of our Business Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #137

this is the point, that i was just saying to another. i do not discuss my personal views, because seabeyond Sep 2014 #139

Exactly, that is why they are called personal views. derp. So simple. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #141

i got pissed at the DEMAND i answer. then it went down hill from there. seabeyond Sep 2014 #33

No demands were made Cartoonist Sep 2014 #39

No demands were made? Bull shit. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #50

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #64

Not playing your game, "Cartoonist". Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #65

I hope they are being entertained. Cartoonist Sep 2014 #68

Well, three on the IL now, seabeyond... chervilant Sep 2014 #58

Where's the straw man? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #66

Whoa Cartoonist Sep 2014 #31

no. that is the argument you are making for the poster i called out. seabeyond Sep 2014 #34

Please answer the question. Cartoonist Sep 2014 #35

I will answer it DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #36

Bad comparison Cartoonist Sep 2014 #38

I would mercuryblues Sep 2014 #56

I'm kind of with you here. Cartoonist Sep 2014 #63

If you've been here for any amount of time, you see them pop up often. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #46

Another one throwing themself on the gang pile? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #67

are you kidding me?? why are you being nasty to me? get a grip PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #69

Don't people read their own posts? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #74

this is the problem with your arguments. your own, personalized, caricatures for insult seabeyond Sep 2014 #76

???? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #85

I repeat, get a grip. That was a clear shit and run. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #79

I object to the word drivel Cartoonist Sep 2014 #93

don't project your issues with others onto me. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #95

go back Cartoonist Sep 2014 #101

"Another one throwing themself on the gang pile?" cyberswede Sep 2014 #111

Have you read this whole thread Cartoonist Sep 2014 #113

Oh, I see. She made you do it. cyberswede Sep 2014 #115

Your self-inflicted martyrdom is creative and entertaining... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #173

after you got nasty... first. hold your breath for that apology.. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #123

"disregard of a late term fetus' humanity." talk about irresponsibly putting words in others mouth seabeyond Sep 2014 #96

perception Cartoonist Sep 2014 #105

omg... and this is the fuggin' game i called from your first post, on. you assign it to me and seabeyond Sep 2014 #106

I stand by everything I've said Cartoonist Sep 2014 #108

that is not my job to prove shit to you. you do not get to assign it to me, simply because seabeyond Sep 2014 #109

"Show me where you've recognized the humanity of a fetus." cyberswede Sep 2014 #114

Since lots of jury results are being posted in this thread (I was juror #5): Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #61

Dayum! We did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #42

My response... theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #51

My response was #5! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #53

NICE. MadrasT Sep 2014 #55

this ONE, sheshe, is fun. thank you. to each and every juror. thank you. seabeyond Sep 2014 #70

I admit I was scared.... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #86

Now THAT is a jury that understands what's going on. cyberswede Sep 2014 #98

Dayum, cyberswede, sheshe2 Sep 2014 #102

The stars must have been aligned, I was on this jury too - no comments though :-) seaglass Sep 2014 #127

Now, that is alignment. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #178

My alert. Here are results PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #43

thanks peace. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #72

LOL! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #44

So, anyone can come into our group and chide us for addressing anti-choice rhetoric... chervilant Sep 2014 #52

Juror #3 here. ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #54

always good to see you screaming. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #75

There is a war on women and women's rights, and it's right here on this "democratic" forum seabeyond Sep 2014 #73

I really wonder DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #81

lol... ya. and they also have their window open to be serving on the juries, too. seabeyond Sep 2014 #87

Yup! JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #122

Per Skinner, YES. This is NOT a protected group. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #136

Actually it IS a protected group. JTFrog Sep 2014 #138

+1 Hong Kong Cavalier Sep 2014 #143

this is clearly, exactly the point. why would we expect anything else. thank you. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #146

Hmm. I can see what you are saying, but he definitely put the "protected" in quotes. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Sep 2014 #145

yes he did. he purposely put that there. you are right. and we all heard it loud and clear. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #147

Yes, it's quite audible, even over all the "howling". JTFrog Sep 2014 #148

passive aggressive shit.... pisses me off. damn close to jsut saying we are stirring cauldrons, seabeyond Sep 2014 #151

OMG NO!!! I did NOT mean my post in that fashion!!! IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #153

throwin' my arm around you woman. i am dealing iwth this stuff, from like three directions. seabeyond Sep 2014 #156

Thank you for understanding. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #163

I apologize. My post was NOT intended as passive aggressive or insulting. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #155

and btw... i knew it was not way clear nad too lazy to clarify. my discussion about passive seabeyond Sep 2014 #157

So sorry! Some days...sigh. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #162

actually, i was feeling a connection and unity at the cauldron and cacklin', nothing wrong with a seabeyond Sep 2014 #165

Maiden, Mother, Crone - the original trinity. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #166

i just had a conversation about this early this morning. seabeyond Sep 2014 #167

and then wow. reading the second half of your post. wow. seabeyond Sep 2014 #149

My comment was NOT intended as an insult. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #154

and again.... seabeyond Sep 2014 #158

Thank you!!! IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #164

Hell the first post was taking swipes at people in here. JTFrog Sep 2014 #168

Again, JTFrog, I apologize. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #170

Is "not protected" an open invitation? chervilant Sep 2014 #175

i was talking to another, on a totally unrelated part of du, it is certainly NOT a level playing seabeyond Sep 2014 #176

BTW, I am not confused. chervilant Sep 2014 #59

Skinner has said that "alert-stalking" does not exist (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #71

thank you chervilant. i do think that everything is crystal clear, and have been given a thumbs up. seabeyond Sep 2014 #78

Excellent summation of what's been chervilant Sep 2014 #125

I don't see any "anti-abortion shit" in that post. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #62

Welcome to the stalkers club, Nye Cartoonist Sep 2014 #83

"I don't support anyone's right to make false accusations" "stalkers club" seabeyond Sep 2014 #89

Thanks Cartoonist Sep 2014 #97

see, you play the passive aggressive game in wording. and that is considered "civil" seabeyond Sep 2014 #100

What do you mean, "we"? Cartoonist Sep 2014 #103

myself and others on the board have had a lot of discussion on passive aggressive behavior, recently seabeyond Sep 2014 #104

Clear Cartoonist Sep 2014 #107

Cartoonist sheshe2 Sep 2014 #110

From the statement Cartoonist Sep 2014 #118

They supported you right up to the point that they locked you out of the thread. JTFrog Sep 2014 #133

The Mission Statement of HoF. Statement of Purpose sheshe2 Sep 2014 #121

i know you are blocked. i wanted to point out. no one claimed you were a stalker. seabeyond Sep 2014 #180

Leaving this thread Cartoonist Sep 2014 #112

Well, I did see one post wherein someone played the victim. cyberswede Sep 2014 #117

AGAIN a 3-4 "leave it alone" alp227 Sep 2014 #171

What's curious about Juror #3's post is that Skinner has pretty much said... Hong Kong Cavalier Sep 2014 #174

Yes, like false accusations of victimhood by claiming people are 'piling on' poor you. Buy a mirror, PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #126

wow. what a thread. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #120

Well, fortunately it seems that poster got a nice late-term banning. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #128

Good. The jurors and those defending the troll should be ashamed. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #129

Exactly theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #130

Exactly! Had I been on that Jury I would have voted to Hide For MIRt = Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #131

Yup. Anti-union - SWIFT hide and shown the door. Anti-woman - "Oh, they are just voicing their PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #132

The Message comes in Loud and Very Clear and, since the Democratic Platform does NOT condone Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #134

Thanks, NuclearDem. Better Late than Never ... Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #135

The democratic platform is pro-choice - TBF Sep 2014 #140

you know. lets quit being hysterical women and simply be pragmatic, factual. guy stuff. seabeyond Sep 2014 #142

The poster, Cartoonist has been blocked hlthe2b Sep 2014 #150

Thanks! Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #152

+1, only to show support, though i know you know. and meh.... to the poster, lol. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #159

Thank you! PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #169

User has been PPR'ed alp227 Sep 2014 #160

thank you. i heard. i thought about editing, but meh... lots of conversation in this thread, seabeyond Sep 2014 #161

Interesting ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #172

look at this PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #177

Saw that ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #179