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ismnotwasm

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20. Kind of OT but I'm rereading this book and found this ancient poem about Eve

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 03:23 PM

Sep 2014

Written by the eventually suppressed gnostic cult, the book explores how sexual mores became ingrained, before and after Christianity took over the Roman Empire The gnostic's were many sects-- not uniform at all, but a surprising number revered Eve as wisdom.

“An extraordinary gnostic poem called Thunder: Perfect Mind depicts the spirit, manifested variously as Wisdom and as Eve, speaking as follows:
I am the first and the last.
I am the honored one and the scorned one.
I am the whore and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the bride and the bridegroom,
and it is my husband who begot me.
I am knowledge and ignorance …
I am foolish and I am wise …
I am the one whom they call life [Eve]
and you have called Death.…”

Excerpt From: Pagels, Elaine. “Adam, Eve, and the Serpent.” Vintage Books, 2011-09-21. iBooks.
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"Young men need to be socialized in such a way that rape is as unthinkable to them as cannibalism." [View all] KitSileya Sep 2014 OP

This, exactly ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #1

Yes, isn't it? KitSileya Sep 2014 #4

That is a great quote Kalidurga Sep 2014 #2

Yeah - like the few posters here (and we know who they are) KitSileya Sep 2014 #5

ha. and i literally got a hide for saying.... serve our girls up. lol. ya. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #9

The obsession some posters have with you is scary. KitSileya Sep 2014 #10

this great experiment certainly has been a learning experience. i was telling someone seabeyond Sep 2014 #17

I agree. Don't really know what their deal is, but it's kind of creepy. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #28

Well, THIS DUer still loves you! calimary Sep 2014 #19

right back atcha, woman. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #32

I'll agree with that. Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #3

Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #6

Rec! progressoid Sep 2014 #7

Once, years ago, I heard a PSA on Air America (that's how long ago)... BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #8

It is so elementary, and it is so scary that so many men think that it is wrong. KitSileya Sep 2014 #11

Because males are still stuck in the mistaken belief that females are their property Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #14

Personally as a young man Drale Sep 2014 #12

Thank you Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #15

Like the NY Cannibal Cop? Helen Borg Sep 2014 #16

If you die and I am starving to death ... littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #22

Oh, OK. :) Helen Borg Sep 2014 #24

Here you go. bravenak Sep 2014 #34

i like the anti rape post gone weird, myself. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #35

That was me. bravenak Sep 2014 #36

lol. was it? too funny. i think you were right on. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #37

I had been talking about that movie 'Alive' yesterday. bravenak Sep 2014 #38

Back in the stone ages, young men my age treated batterers and rapists as criminals. freshwest Sep 2014 #13

"it makes you wonder, reading their online rants about feminists, what they are doing IRL..." nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #29

Another great one for my quotes collection! calimary Sep 2014 #18

Kind of OT but I'm rereading this book and found this ancient poem about Eve ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #20

I love that. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #25

Totally. I have no talent for the visual arts, but someone who does should get on that. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #30

What a sellacious remark. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #21

I'm sorry, but I cannot parse your meaning. KitSileya Sep 2014 #33

Comparing rape to cannibalism. I find that disturbing. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #39

You don't agree that rape should be as unacceptable as cannibalism? KitSileya Sep 2014 #40

cannabalism is taboo, and rape should be too, but it is not noiretextatique Sep 2014 #41

Can't find the original post, sorry, Bette Noir Sep 2014 #23

interesting that. and true. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #27

And these guys don't even seem to perceive how they implictly dehumanize themselves nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #31

I read that book years ago....barely riversedge Sep 2014 #26