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Novara

(6,115 posts)
23. Making abortion rare is logically limiting them.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:57 PM
Apr 2015

No, you're right: Hillary didn't talk about limiting abortion. But making abortion rare as a goal logically limits the availability of abortion. That's reality.

Let's play the tape forward and imagine you've met your goal of safe, legal, rare abortion. Let's say that we have perfect birth control, used perfectly, 100% of the time. So that makes the need for abortions much less, because unwanted pregnancies don't occur. It's a world where almost all pregnancies are perfect, wanted, and planned-for. Well, that would serve the goal of making abortion rare, wouldn't it? So why would we need a bunch of doctors who can perform abortions and why would we need a bunch of abortion clinics? After all, it's such a rare procedure now because every pregnancy is wanted. Eliminate the clinics - there's no need for them. But what if you're one of the very rare women who ends up with a fetal deformity they couldn't test for until you were well into your first trimester, a fetal deformity so awful that the baby will be born in pain, gasp for breath, and die as it is coming out of the womb? And you want to avail yourself of the safe, legal, rare abortion to spare that poor child from that painful birth/death. Where are the clinics? Where are the doctors? Who is going to give you an abortion - which you legally can pursue - if it has become so rare that hardly anyone does them?


Do you see that point? What if we live in that world where abortion is rare and so there are no clinics anymore? Then where would the rare woman go when she does need one?

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Let girl/woman do what she needs to do and it's none of our business anyway. HIPPA laws should brewens Apr 2015 #1
Some guys have arrived in that other thread DURHAM D Apr 2015 #2
i just put my toe back into that thread. and i got the but but but, she said rare. seabeyond Apr 2015 #3
Don't bother. DURHAM D Apr 2015 #5
Fall apart of course ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #4
In my experience with this issue, the further difficult question arises when CTyankee Apr 2015 #6
Choice is choice ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #7
I think their bitterness was in large part due to the fact that they were enduring CTyankee Apr 2015 #8
I can see that ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #10
Some of the clinging to religion is defensiveness, people say their kids are a burden on society. freshwest Apr 2015 #11
Okay, I see what your saying concerning that thread... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #9
here is the thing. having listened to speech, reacted to the word rare, then taking it in context seabeyond Apr 2015 #12
I'll bet you money they didn't actually listen to the speech ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #13
You noticed that too, didn't you. Because I sure have. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #28
It was a fantastic reply Novara Apr 2015 #14
I'm one of those who think that by wanting abortion to be rare is wrong seabeyond Apr 2015 #15
That's not what I said. Novara Apr 2015 #17
that is exactly what you said. i copy and pasted your sentence seabeyond Apr 2015 #18
Read what I wrote Novara Apr 2015 #21
i stopped where i wanted to address. because it falls at the beginning is not my problem. seabeyond Apr 2015 #22
Making abortion rare is logically limiting them. Novara Apr 2015 #23
That segues into my point about abortion being a surgical procedure ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #24
you continue to ignore what she is actually saying, regardless of me showing you how fool hearty seabeyond Apr 2015 #25
I'm a nurse so I see it from a medical POV ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #16
The fact that she is repeating it "after her work for women's justice is disturbing." Novara Apr 2015 #19
Isn't that what I said? ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #20
Perfect. I agree with every word. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #26
you are so obvious. ya ya , i get it. it is there for me to see, not all. seabeyond Apr 2015 #27
Heh! ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #29
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