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In reply to the discussion: I renounce my 2nd amendment right [View all]jmg257
(11,996 posts)27. Not at all. You are wrong here. The Constitution uses the term "the Militia"
and the term "the Militia of the several States". They mean the same thing, the same entities ("militia" here is plural -like "fish" , the same as those mandated exist under the Articles, those provided for with the militia acts, and existed in the common wealths for decades. Only how they were to be organized and discipline (and used in constitutional roles) changed much (per federal regulations).
They are one and the same - today there would be 50 of them. There was NO federal militia, only STATE militias called forth in federal service.
"Militia Act of 1792,
Second Congress, Session I. Chapter XXVIII
Passed May 2, 1792,
providing for the authority of the President to call out the Militia
Section 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That whenever the United States shall be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion from any foreign nation or Indian tribe, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, to call forth such number of the militia of the state or states most convenient to the place of danger...
it shall be lawful for the President of the United States to call forth the militia of such state to suppress such combinations, and to cause the laws to be duly executed. And if the militia of a state, where such combinations may happen, shall refuse, or be insufficient to suppress the same, it shall be lawful for the President, if the legislature of the United States be not in session, to call forth and employ such numbers of , the militia of any other state or states
Second Congress, Session I. Chapter XXVIII
Passed May 2, 1792,
providing for the authority of the President to call out the Militia
Section 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That whenever the United States shall be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion from any foreign nation or Indian tribe, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, to call forth such number of the militia of the state or states most convenient to the place of danger...
it shall be lawful for the President of the United States to call forth the militia of such state to suppress such combinations, and to cause the laws to be duly executed. And if the militia of a state, where such combinations may happen, shall refuse, or be insufficient to suppress the same, it shall be lawful for the President, if the legislature of the United States be not in session, to call forth and employ such numbers of , the militia of any other state or states
"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United
States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service"
"provide for calling forth the Militia to..."
"...provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for
governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United
States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers,
and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline
prescribed by Congress
States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service"
"provide for calling forth the Militia to..."
"...provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for
governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United
States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers,
and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline
prescribed by Congress
There was no federal militia till the creation of the National Guard.
I have read Bogus - interesting, but as shown, hardly the complete picture. You might want to read some other sources. I suggest starting with the constitution, then the early Militia Acts where congress 1st used their power re: how to organize and call forth the state militias in federal service.
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The mental health aspect is all fine and wonderful... and totally unrealistic.
world wide wally
Mar 2013
#17
You are confusing federal militias with state militias (aka slave patrols)...
CapnSteve
Apr 2013
#26