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gulliver

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16. We'll get to (better than) Medicare for All through realistic steps. Otherwise it will be voted down

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

Mar 2020

The large majority of people have healthcare, and they vote. They aren't going to vote in a government takeover of health care in one fell swoop. Sanders, for example, could never get anywhere with his proposal in the Senate. There's a reason for that. It has no chance.

Make a version of a Medicare Advantage plan a public option, and increase subsidies and Medicaid to cover all. We have a chance to do that now. We have proven success with Obamacare, despite Republican sabotage. We can build on it, and it will pass.

Medicare without an Advantage plan on top of it sucks anyway. There's no MOOP for one huge thing. We need to stop saying "Medicare for All." That probably conjures up visions in the minds of seniors of having to share a system that is already way too stingy and complicated. We need national health care that's better than Medicare.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders: Type 1 diabetes taught me we need Medicare for All Opinion [View all] Uncle Joe Mar 2020 OP

since sanders never builds cooperation I think you want any improvments, you are wasting your vote beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1

Excellent!!! Thank you!!!! jimfields33 Mar 2020 #2

I've been saying, showblue22 Mar 2020 #15

Those against it have no case that has any credibility. The donor class is not who we should be BeckyDem Mar 2020 #3

Good people can disagree Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5

At this juncture in American politics its too little too late to suggest we can get there by BeckyDem Mar 2020 #6

+1 Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #9

Good morning, Joe! BeckyDem Mar 2020 #12

If you feel like you have some magic wand to wave and change it..please proceed Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #11

The problem Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #13

There are reasons they don't support it, and its not because their constituents don't support it. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #18

Whatever the reason is, Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #22

There is no good argument against it...costs and coverage. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #25

I'm not really in disagreement with you. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #28

It is, we do agree and why we need all Democrats to support Medicare for All. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #32

Bernie lost the primary. showblue22 Mar 2020 #21

There is not one single dem candidate out there that doesn't want to see ALL have health insurance!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #7

No one needs health insurance, they need medical care not based on a for profit system. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #10

Nothing is free.. call it whatever you want medical care, m4a Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #17

If not through health insurance that pools all the risks Hav Mar 2020 #20

The "donor class" is a creation of the Sanders campaign. There is no such thing. George II Mar 2020 #14

lol BeckyDem Mar 2020 #19

The mysterious "donor" class donates to Sanders through his PAC. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #30

Nonsense. As if Bernie is the one who refuses to fight for the Green New Deal and BeckyDem Mar 2020 #31

"according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #33

Bernie supports not obstructs policies that Americans support by large measures BeckyDem Mar 2020 #35

This.. along with "establishment Dems" those establishment Dems just passed a huge corona virus Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #23

He also speaks of the "ruling class" even though he's been one of them for 30 years. George II Mar 2020 #26

If he hasn't been able to accomplish it as Representative or Senator, how can he do it as President? George II Mar 2020 #4

And why is that question not put forth to sanders from his followers? Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #8

We'll get to (better than) Medicare for All through realistic steps. Otherwise it will be voted down gulliver Mar 2020 #16

Thank you!! Yes we will Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #24

this sentence is the problem ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #27

If your life depends on getting affordable or covered insulin Hav Mar 2020 #29

Very nice and it won't happen with a repub senate. we can do it Mar 2020 #34

Good luck getting providers with Medicare for all Julian English Mar 2020 #36

That's Fine but there is Less than a 1% Chance he will be on the Ballot in November Stallion Mar 2020 #37

It's a little too late for that, I think. MineralMan Mar 2020 #38