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thesquanderer

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18. re: "No one was in favor of bailouts"
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:18 PM
Mar 2020

LOTS of people were in favor of them... that's why they passed! With a good amount of bipartisan support, no less.

re:

he can't bend when circumstances require it
Yes he can. He railed against the ACA and really wanted at least a public option in it, but when he couldn't get what he wanted, he still voted FOR the ACA, accepting that it was still better than voting against it. Similarly, he railed against the 1994 crime bill, and tried to get an amendment to get the death penalty out of it, but in the end, still voted for it, because of the violence against women provision. Every complex multi-faceted vote is a balance, and like all our representatives, you end up voting for a mix of good and bad, he's not a purist. But sometimes he'll come down on the side you wanted, and sometimes he won't. That's even without the other variables when it comes to voting, like your assessment of the odds of being able to get something better, or the knowledge of whether it has enough votes to pass or not regardless of how you vote (which gives you some more leeway to vote strictly on principle rather than pragmatism).
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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You heard it right! True Blue American Mar 2020 #1
Actually, he voted for the auto bailout as its own bill. He voted against it when it was... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #8
Regardless of what Sanders thought...the fact is that without it the autos would have gone under... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #11
re: "the fact is that without it the autos would have gone under" thesquanderer Mar 2020 #12
It is completely true...the autos would have failed...rewriting history there. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #16
re: "No one was in favor of bailouts" thesquanderer Mar 2020 #18
People were tired of bailouts....they were not popular and unless the money was released then , it Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #19
It was a fools errand for anyone to believe that we had all the time in the world. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #17
Exactly right. Some want to rewrite history...bailouts were not popular. The public was bailout Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #22
It would have been a disaster. Without the bailouts, we would have gone into a depression. It also still_one Mar 2020 #2
The the auto workers should vote against him in their state primaries and VOTE FOR JOE !!!! trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #4
I agree still_one Mar 2020 #5
Hard to believe DownriverDem Mar 2020 #6
They already did, last Tuesday. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2020 #7
Bernie votes against everything nt doc03 Mar 2020 #3
He votes for pure, pristine and flawless bills NCProgressive Mar 2020 #14
Sanders' revolution can only take place after devastation. Hortensis Mar 2020 #9
And remember Randy.. the auto bailout was a loan that got repaid with interest!! Peacetrain Mar 2020 #10
Yes ... and the loan was above market rates with stock as collateral NCProgressive Mar 2020 #15
Precisely!!! NC.. the republicans throw money down a rabbit hole Peacetrain Mar 2020 #21
Yes he did... and there's always some excuse or justification. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13
For people that are basically ideologues, they will find SOMETHING wrong Blue_true Mar 2020 #20
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