Democratic Primaries

The Magistrate

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60. That Is Not Such a Sure Thing, Ma'am

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 AM

Apr 2020

Pence began as an AM band hate radio talker. He is an exceptionally smooth liar, and quite adept at the 'Gish gallop' technique, throwing out so many lies so quickly that an opponent faces a difficult choice --- either spend all his or her time trying to refute the lies, which leaves no time for pressing one's own points, or allow the lies to stand unchallenged while pressing one's own points, which the lies left standing will weaken in the minds of an audience. Pence sliced and diced Kaine in 2016. I am not saying the man is invincible, but anyone who goes against him thinking he will be a pushover is almost certain to be defeated.

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Did Biden Tell Sanders He Will Choose Warren as VP? [View all] Don1 Apr 2020 OP

No. TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #1

Respectfully, ... Don1 Apr 2020 #2

There are other options available that could help Biden win in other states TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #6

Exactly.... DON'T lose the Senate groundloop Apr 2020 #32

I agree. bluescribbler Apr 2020 #50

+1 K&R onetexan Apr 2020 #38

Massachusetts mandates quick elections. blm Apr 2020 #54

see post 85 Don1 Apr 2020 #88

Engergizing? Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #29

Exactly! The AA voting block SAVED us!! We need them to be energized and voting Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #86

Agreed Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #91

I hope not DownriverDem Apr 2020 #34

Spot on. Elizabeth wld be better off in the Senate. onetexan Apr 2020 #39

Absolutely! rurallib Apr 2020 #78

We would lose a senate seat if Warren is elected VP Gothmog Apr 2020 #52

Key! empedocles Apr 2020 #67

M.G.L.A. 54 140 Don1 Apr 2020 #85

If Warren is elected as Vice President, she will have no control over timing Gothmog Apr 2020 #112

You seem to be under the misapprehension Aquaria Apr 2020 #55

And one who is young enough to run after his term. GemDigger Apr 2020 #64

Excellent point. Aquaria Apr 2020 #65

Warren doesn't seem like a VP type of person Wanderlust988 Apr 2020 #3

Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #44

You don't know Biden then. blm Apr 2020 #59

I'd love that pick too, but there's been recent buzz... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #4

Very true Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #30

Age factor DownriverDem Apr 2020 #35

I like Whitmer, but I think she would be a poor choice for a lot of reasons. W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #51

You Continue, Sir, To Labor Under Some Mis-Apprehension Of What Democracy Is The Magistrate Apr 2020 #5

Exactly. Aquaria Apr 2020 #63

No Don1 Apr 2020 #66

The 'Due' Influence, Sir, Is None The Magistrate Apr 2020 #71

Democracy is not totalitarianism. Don1 Apr 2020 #87

It Is Consulting The People, Sir, And Abiding By The Majority Opinion The Magistrate Apr 2020 #93

Warren is best as treasury sec. or commerce. Her as VP just feeds into the socialism argument... brush Apr 2020 #7

I hope not. beachbumbob Apr 2020 #8

No Dave in VA Apr 2020 #9

For me, anyone but Harris or Gillibrand. Remember Franken. 3Hotdogs Apr 2020 #22

Plus both come from solid blue states Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #31

For the country, Harris would be a fantastic choice. MrsCoffee Apr 2020 #33

NO Skittles Apr 2020 #10

Biden owes Sanders nothing. In a democracy there is no rule that the large-majority winner pnwmom Apr 2020 #11

Huh? Don1 Apr 2020 #68

Biden will represent all US voters, so yes, in that sense he will represent Sanders people. pnwmom Apr 2020 #75

GOP Gov picks Warren's replacement DIVINEprividence Apr 2020 #12

Or- James48 Apr 2020 #13

Vice President Biden already indicated that he would choose a woman for VP. PAMod Apr 2020 #25

Sanders? DownriverDem Apr 2020 #36

Now that would be a recipe for disaster. Sanders is not comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #41

Very True, Sir --- The Man Is Absolutely Unacceptable The Magistrate Apr 2020 #43

Biden isn't that stupid. Aquaria Apr 2020 #57

Seriously? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #62

LOL, well said DarthDem Apr 2020 #76

. TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #95

I could get really excited if Joe picked Sen. Warren. Sparky 1 Apr 2020 #14

+1 CountAllVotes Apr 2020 #19

Warren Would Skyrocket My Enthusiasm McKim Apr 2020 #21

So you've sort of just proven that it does not treestar Apr 2020 #110

Not me DownriverDem Apr 2020 #37

no to any of the former primary candidates quickesst Apr 2020 #15

Val Demings, yes! She'll put Florida in play. Joe needs someone who can bring something to the table Skya Rhen Apr 2020 #42

I agree Skya quickesst Apr 2020 #108

Not going to happen bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #16

No, because if that were the case, he would pick safeinOhio Apr 2020 #17

I would love to see Kamala Harris yuiyoshida Apr 2020 #18

Don't see that happening. But life is full of surprises FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #20

How can you still be undecided? Biden is obviously the Nominee. PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #23

It's highly unlikely that Biden made that promise to Sanders. Sloumeau Apr 2020 #24

Joe Biden needs to find mercuryblues Apr 2020 #26

Tall order. As close to as possible. emmaverybo Apr 2020 #80

Oh, so Obama then. AwakeAtLast Apr 2020 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author polmaven Apr 2020 #27

Same here!! polmaven Apr 2020 #27

Well at least Andy823 Apr 2020 #40

She would destroy "Dead Eyes Pence" in a debate. B Stieg Apr 2020 #45

That Is Not Such a Sure Thing, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #60

She would. Don1 Apr 2020 #70

Just No colsohlibgal Apr 2020 #46

see post 85 Don1 Apr 2020 #89

Just saying and for what it's worth, I like Val Cozmo Apr 2020 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Apr 2020 #48

Well, you keep telling yourself that. Aquaria Apr 2020 #61

No. Aquaria Apr 2020 #49

see post 85 Don1 Apr 2020 #90

Why would Biden tell BS anything about his plans? BS is irrelevant. Squinch Apr 2020 #53

JB's needs may change over time. Why commit now? empedocles Apr 2020 #69

And why tell BS? Really, BSs followers are often delusional about his influence. Squinch Apr 2020 #73

I am not a Sanders follower or delusional. Don1 Apr 2020 #82

Yeah, sure bro. Squinch Apr 2020 #83

Argument through insults is the last refuge of not being able to come up with rational argumentation Don1 Apr 2020 #97

So you've said. Twice now. I guess that passes for rational argumentation these days. Squinch Apr 2020 #99

It is rational argument. Insults aren't. Don1 Apr 2020 #101

LOL! Have a lovely day. Squinch Apr 2020 #106

Lose a Senator? randr Apr 2020 #56

No, but everyone knows by now Joe wanted Warren in 2016 blm Apr 2020 #58

Hope so pattyloutwo Apr 2020 #72

Very unlikely relayerbob Apr 2020 #74

Warren has to endorse him first!! Biden should not grovel! question everything Apr 2020 #77

Was he groveling in 2015 when he asked her to run with him? blm Apr 2020 #96

What are you talking about? question everything Apr 2020 #102

He was weighing a 2016 run and if he did he wanted blm Apr 2020 #103

Four years is a lifetime in politics question everything Apr 2020 #104

OK, so you are a no. Biden took a few jabs at Obama, btw. blm Apr 2020 #105

I sure hope it does go down that way. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #81

I don't even think BS would care. He's in it for his ego, not for his policies. Chemisse Apr 2020 #84

Exactly right LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #92

ROTFLMAO left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #94

I seriously doubt this speculation peggysue2 Apr 2020 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #100

LOL, Not. A. Chance. Knowledge is power. Hortensis Apr 2020 #107

Nope..We need Elizabeth in the senate. She is not a good fit for a Biden ticket. Nt helpisontheway Apr 2020 #109

I hate it strategically. BGBD Apr 2020 #111