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dawg day

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13. Yes, something we're really going to have to get back to is expecting more than rhetoric

Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:53 PM

Apr 2020

Some political and government figures seem to think (and their fans accept) that just saying they're for something is the equivalent of getting it done.

There's definitely a place for "aspiration" and "pushing the line" in that it can recenter the conversation ($15 minimum wage is now considered a goal for many Dems).

But a goal or aspiration isn't a happening.

And with Trump, he says things he never even plans to have happen or are categorically not happening, "more tests than anywhere else in the world!"

His chaotic bs pronouncements are lies. And actual aspirations and goals are not lies... but we need to return to the immediate recognition that they also aren't the truth, or even a plan.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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We do have a Sanders Problem because of the Steinist Hires.. [View all] Peacetrain Apr 2020 OP

BS always a problem empedocles Apr 2020 #1

The sad thing is that looking at twitter posts from Gray and her ilk.. it is obvious they do not Peacetrain Apr 2020 #3

She is a Jill Stein voter and supporter. Bernie chose her as a slap in the face to the Democrats... NurseJackie Apr 2020 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #18

At this point, I think we should just ignore them. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #2

Actually I could not agree more.. all of the Sanders supporters who are Warren supporters.. Peacetrain Apr 2020 #6

That Seems To Be The Case, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #4

I think there are darker forces at work here than many of us even realize Magistrate Peacetrain Apr 2020 #9

I Agree, Ma'am, A Portion Of This Owes To Hostile Action, Some Fomented From Abroad The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10

It would be useful if Sanders sternly and repeatedly requests that his staffmembers at least dawg day Apr 2020 #5

'It would be useful if' if interviewers would hold BS accountable for his claims and behaviors, empedocles Apr 2020 #8

Yes, something we're really going to have to get back to is expecting more than rhetoric dawg day Apr 2020 #13

Not worried--they will soon be drowned out SiliconValley_Dem Apr 2020 #7

The problem lies with Sanders himself. He hired those people comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #11

Embrace former primary Sanders DEMOCRATS, Hortensis Apr 2020 #12

He did not surround himself with the best people mcar Apr 2020 #14

In that regard, somewhat trump like [again] empedocles Apr 2020 #16

Hate to say it, but... mcar Apr 2020 #17

Thank You! LostOne4Ever Apr 2020 #19

I have some Bernie bros on my facebook, and they've gotten uglier and uglier as he's started losing. D23MIURG23 Apr 2020 #20