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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: With only one candidate remaining, how can anyone around here still be "Undecided"? [View all]thesquanderer
(12,408 posts)47. re: "The OP is clearly calling-out the anti-Biden behavior. Nothing more, nothing less."
As I see it, what he is asking is, "with only one candidate remaining, how can anyone around here still be 'Undecided' ?" You are ascribing a particular motivation to the question, whereas it could also simply be taken at face value. But either way, my answers would be the same.
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Of course it's openly... anyone who makes public proclamations as we've seen here, and anyone who pretends to be "undecided" (as we see here) is giving the middle finger to Joe Biden and the Democratic party.
I meant it's not openly when it is done in the poll booth. (That's what I was talking about when I said "frees someone to simply make known who they would truly prefer in an ideal world" -- I meant at the poll booth. Sorry if that was not clear.)
As for displays of support on DU, it is currently not possible to display support (in the manner discussed in the OP) for any candidate other than Biden. Yes, someone could create a public proclamation as you say, but that's not what the OP here was talking about, nor what I was talking about. The only display option here (as discussed in the OP) is to choose Biden or to leave it at undecided. The latter of which is not necessarily a middle finger to Biden. It can be respecting the time honored tradition of keeping one's vote to oneself (again, no one is obligated to make this info public). It could be that you choose to vote for someone else to make your enthusiasm for that person known in a way that won't interfere with Biden's nomination (which does not necessarily equate to a knock on Biden). Or maybe you honestly have not yet decided whether you will choose to do that or vote for Biden. It could also be that you ALREADY voted for someone else in your primary. Or it could be that you just didn't think that changing your icon was important enough to bother with. Whatever. I think you're seeing middle fingers where they are not intended. Some may be dissing Biden, but there are so many other possibilities!
Here's a real world example of a similar thought process. After the last Biden-Sanders debate, my significant other said she didn't particularly care for either of them, and didn't care which of them won (though of course whoever it was, she would vote for him in November), so she said she'd still vote for Warren if she were on the ballot. You may not like it, but being a Democrat doesn't mean you sign up to be part of a mindless cult who all must think in lock-step with everyone else. She's allowed to have a mind of her own, and decide how she would personally like to express her Democratic ideals. Whatever she chooses to do, nothing she will do will help Trump in any way.
Personally, I saw pros and cons to both Biden and Sanders, and explained why I settled on Biden in the post referenced earlier... and for the reasons expressed there, I was committed to voting for Biden as long as there was any chance it could be a real contest. The funny thing is, I had given this no further thought since Sanders suspended, and had not even considered the possibility of not voting for Biden until this thread stirred me to think about whether or not that was still what I wanted to do, once it was certain that Biden would be the nominee regardless. So ironically, now I'm not sure how I'll vote! But I have plenty of time to decide about that. Actually, if I were to take the caption literally, "If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for:"... my honest answer would be I wouldn't vote. I already know Biden will be the nominee, and I would just stay home, since I am part of an "at risk" group, and don't need to take an iota of risk to merely make a statement, regardless of what that statement were to be. But we'll see when the time comes. (I also don't yet know whether there is any other race or referendum on my ballot that day.)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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With only one candidate remaining, how can anyone around here still be "Undecided"? [View all]
George II
Apr 2020
OP
It's a passive-aggressive swipe at Biden, and a reinforcement of the "Lesser of Two-Evils" bullshit.
NurseJackie
Apr 2020
#5
Only ONE party can defeat the GOP: DEMOCRATS. Only ONE candidate can defeat Trump: BIDEN.
NurseJackie
Apr 2020
#29
re: "That's a strawman because nobody is making the argument that anyone has such an 'obligation' "
thesquanderer
Apr 2020
#42
The OP is clearly calling-out the anti-Biden behavior. Nothing more, nothing less.
NurseJackie
Apr 2020
#44
re: "The OP is clearly calling-out the anti-Biden behavior. Nothing more, nothing less."
thesquanderer
Apr 2020
#47
It's an indication I'm not going to affix a Biden bumpersticker to my DU profile
Devil Child
Apr 2020
#9
I never changed it when my candidate dropped out, becacuse I had already voted in a primary.
moriah
Apr 2020
#31
The real question is "With only one candidate, why do we still have the candidate pics in our sigs?"
ExciteBike66
Apr 2020
#34
I was for Warren, but the site changed it automatically when she dropped out
democrattotheend
Apr 2020
#37