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SunSeeker

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88. We're all frustrated, Autumn. But we need constructive ideas. Bashing Dems only helps Trump.

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 04:23 PM

Dec 16

$25k is a big help. Rent now is so high that a mortgage payment on a modest home or condo would be about the same.

But what can we offer that can get past GOP obstruction?

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Maybe Democrats Didn't Do So Badly After All [View all] babylonsister Dec 16 OP

Yeah right they won big. In the house the senate , oh yeah and an adjugated rapist won the White House. Autumn Dec 16 #1

They faced enormous challenges Keepthesoulalive Dec 16 #9

Every candidate who runs for office faces challenges. They either overcome those challenges or they lose. Autumn Dec 16 #10

But all challenges are not the same. Nt spooky3 Dec 16 #15

No they aren't the same but If you can't overcome the challenges you shift gears to something that works. Autumn Dec 16 #18

Ask the people of North Carolina Keepthesoulalive Dec 16 #20

So who in NC voted to put those corrupt justices in place? Who voted for the people Autumn Dec 16 #27

I was referring to the Supreme Court Keepthesoulalive Dec 16 #34

The sc sucks, it's been corrupt for years. Yet even Democrats hesitate to even attempt to change Autumn Dec 16 #37

Please don't bad mouth NC. We have been marching, protesting... littlemissmartypants Dec 16 #40

Not bad mouthing. I asked who voted for the people who put those things in place. Autumn Dec 16 #42

It's not that simple. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Dec 16 #47

Yes it really is that simple. Autumn Dec 16 #50

I'm not going to argue with you. littlemissmartypants Dec 16 #56

yeah well at least don't put your head in the sand Nimble_Idea Dec 16 #97

Republicans did moose65 Dec 16 #85

Republicans are on an unending quest for power. It seems almost hopeless. Autumn Dec 16 #87

stay strong; keep shining the light...........nt DoBW Dec 16 #83

There was also a Supreme Court that handed the crime-ridden candidate..... 70sEraVet Dec 16 #12

And Covid-recovery, world wide inflation that many voters spooky3 Dec 16 #16

Biden said one of his mistakes was not putting his name on the covid checks his administration sent out. CrispyQ Dec 16 #39

The news media gave him a get out of jail free card. Initech Dec 16 #28

Journalism is dead. They are in business MotownPgh Dec 16 #86

I'm trying to convince my parents to cancel their LA Times subscription. Initech Dec 16 #93

All true...but kevinore Dec 16 #104

Where did the OP argue that nothing should change? Nt spooky3 Dec 16 #14

Who said the OP argues that nothing should change? The article said the Dems didn't do too bad, Autumn Dec 16 #22

It was the Republican billionaire financed propaganda that got Trump in. SunSeeker Dec 16 #19

Maybe they should figure it out before the next election? As elected Democrats that's part of their job. Autumn Dec 16 #24

Please be specific. What is it the "people are talking" about that Dems need to do? SunSeeker Dec 16 #26

I gave you a serious answer. Democrats have to do something or they can expect to lose. Autumn Dec 16 #30

Could you expand on "do something"? nt Phoenix61 Dec 16 #55

Sure. Do something is action orientated. Autumn Dec 16 #59

Do you not understand the meaning of the word "specific"? Wiz Imp Dec 16 #62

Right at you Imp. I don't have to be specific, it would be a waste of time since I'm not an elected Dem. nt Autumn Dec 16 #65

In other words, you gave a totally UNSERIOUS answer to a question from someone who asked you for specifics. Wiz Imp Dec 16 #70

Tell me. Is your idea of "lets keep doing the same thing that caused us to lose so badly last month Autumn Dec 16 #73

Pathetic. "At least I'm talking about the Dems doing something" Wiz Imp Dec 16 #74

I've been a Dem long enough to know that Dems won't cut social security. Autumn Dec 16 #76

Apparently that flew right over your head Wiz Imp Dec 16 #79

Oh Please. Wiz Imp Dec 16 #61

Oh Please yourself. Young people are talking about their needs. You can listen to them or not. Autumn Dec 16 #63

Kamala offered young people studend loan forgiveness and $25k to buy their first home. SunSeeker Dec 16 #68

Between republican congress and the SC halting Biden's student loan forgiveness some of it Autumn Dec 16 #78

We're all frustrated, Autumn. But we need constructive ideas. Bashing Dems only helps Trump. SunSeeker Dec 16 #88

Still nothing specific. You're ridiculous. Wiz Imp Dec 16 #69

What is that "something"? SunSeeker Dec 16 #66

What should dems do differently? Sapper52 Dec 16 #103

I'd be interested in hearing what you think comprises the "far left" - TBF Dec 16 #105

Time out. Your profile states you're a Retired Army NCO. GP6971 Dec 16 #106

Popular vote is irrelevant. Voltaire2 Dec 16 #2

Even with gerrymandered districts that were pro republican allowed by the Snister 6 -- they barely won the house JT45242 Dec 16 #5

Excellent explanation love_katz Dec 16 #13

Republicans won the House due to the unconstitutional gerrymander in North Carolina Wiz Imp Dec 16 #64

But it was all razor thin. TRHST82 Dec 16 #53

Popular vote margin was the 6th smallest in history (60 elections) Wiz Imp Dec 16 #67

Dems gained a seat in the House... druidity33 Dec 16 #98

Yes, losing everything to criminal fascists isn't doing badly. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 16 #3

THIS orangecrush Dec 16 #23

Fuk it dweller Dec 16 #4

Obviously the final result wasn't great Quiet Em Dec 16 #6

If we can Linda ladeewolf Dec 16 #8

I'm just trying to stay hopeful that their incompetence and infighting will render them useless. Quiet Em Dec 16 #31

I vote brakester Dec 16 #75

It wasn't a shellacking Blue_Tires Dec 16 #7

If we get mid-term elections. AllyCat Dec 16 #11

The narrow Republican margins show the Dems aren't off track Fiendish Thingy Dec 16 #17

stay strong; keep shining the light..........nt DoBW Dec 16 #84

I guess we're reverting back to the bargaining stage. BannonsLiver Dec 16 #21

I agree orangecrush Dec 16 #25

Democrats are horrible at messaging, gab13by13 Dec 16 #29

How can you make the media Keepthesoulalive Dec 16 #38

This is starting to sound like an abusive relationship. What you thought happened, really didn't happen. jalan48 Dec 16 #32

When you steal an election, you don't have to win by much rainin Dec 16 #33

That's ambivalence, not a mandate. no_hypocrisy Dec 16 #35

That and $3.00 will get you a cup of coffee. nt William769 Dec 16 #36

We need billionaires Traildogbob Dec 16 #41

We need to tar and feather that gaslighter Joe Rogaine and his imbecilic followers wolfie001 Dec 16 #43

Spot on Traildogbob Dec 16 #45

Too many simple minded and gullible fools wolfie001 Dec 16 #46

I fall in Traildogbob Dec 16 #60

I hear you loud and clear!!! wolfie001 Dec 16 #95

🤜🤛🖖 Traildogbob Dec 16 #101

oligarch economic interests are better served by fascism than by whatever the Democratic Party is. Voltaire2 Dec 16 #92

Here's the money quote:... Bobstandard Dec 16 #44

I haven't seen the pushback... lame54 Dec 16 #71

That's definite now -- he DIDN'T get 50% of the vote? Rocknation Dec 16 #48

THANKS for the good news, b'sister!!! elleng Dec 16 #49

"Maybe Democrats Didn't Do So Badly After All" uncledad Dec 16 #51

Do not stay the course, but don't overcorrect either. TRHST82 Dec 16 #52

so much this. We need to do better in red and purple areas! OrlandoDem2 Dec 16 #54

Agree Strelnikov_ Dec 16 #81

Can't really downplay Trump's and the GOP's victories andym Dec 16 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Dec 16 #58

The Democrats had ONE job to do LPBBEAR Dec 16 #72

IMHO, we're always too eager to beat up on ourselves wryter2000 Dec 16 #77

With all the headwind the Dems faced Strelnikov_ Dec 16 #80

Restricted to telling the truth-so true but such a babylonsister Dec 16 #99

I'm not in favor of lying wryter2000 Dec 16 #102

I was listening to Michael Cohen mountain grammy Dec 16 #82

It makes sense to me Polybius Dec 16 #100

Pretty much what Cohen said mountain grammy Dec 17 #108

What a relief... for a moment I thought they'd won the White House and Congress. WarGamer Dec 16 #89

Tis but a flesh wound! BeyondGeography Dec 16 #90

Rethuglicans cheated to win. OMGWTF Dec 16 #91

Oh, goodie! Do I get a participation trophy? JoseBalow Dec 16 #94

"A trio of Republican vacancies expected early next year will make passing Trump's agenda even more difficult?..." OldBaldy1701E Dec 16 #96

Please stop and think................. BurnDoubt Dec 17 #107

But it does need some tuning. Kablooie Dec 17 #109