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bucolic_frolic

(50,134 posts)
2. I don't believe we should scuttle everything to please Gen Z
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 06:27 PM
Dec 2024

There is wisdom, experience, timing. The clockwork of politics as it developed over time. The principles of democracy dating from ancient Roman Empire. The foundation of the Enlightenment. We faced similar terrain when Nixon won reelection. How did that work out for us?

Let youth study Machiavelli, Hobbes, Montesquieu, Locke, Rousseau - the great political philosophers. To govern you need to please and convince naysayers and the other side, not just yourselves. If you want one-sided government, you have Republicans and MAGA and Trump. We risk becoming a much smaller party in opposition if we shed our leaders in favor of firebrands. Witness the fracture of moderation in multiple European countries. They call elections twice a year sometimes.

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I haven't heard that one yet. ornotna Dec 2024 #1
No SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #8
I don't believe we should scuttle everything to please Gen Z bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #2
You aren't really listening Cirsium Dec 2024 #3
But that's the point SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #13
This ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #46
I don't believe those KT2000 Dec 2024 #4
Won't be long before we see posts awesomerwb1 Dec 2024 #5
What are your suggestions? SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #7
A pizza? Celerity Dec 2024 #23
Toppings? SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #29
Swedish kebabpizza 🍕 Celerity Dec 2024 #30
How about the The Madcap Dec 2024 #16
So we should stick with the leaders who lost SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #6
Which sort of ignores the question of whether there will be a Democratic party in 2 years 0rganism Dec 2024 #9
Spoiler alert: if we did, the same forces of propaganda that got them to stop on a dime and hate Hillary, Pelosi, etc. W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #10
"They" Cirsium Dec 2024 #20
Those that claim they will happily support Democrats if we only bend over backwards to appease them... W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #36
oh, those wankers Cirsium Dec 2024 #37
Why do you assume the observation is driven by "hatred" ? It's just an observation. Hekate Dec 2024 #39
Intense dislike? Cirsium Dec 2024 #41
De-rec. NT Celerity Dec 2024 #24
Spoiler alert: Those forces are already at work in this thread. Iggo Dec 2024 #25
Spot on. The real issue with running a woman for POTUS is a national case of reeking misogyny Hekate Dec 2024 #38
She's a fighter... lame54 Dec 2024 #11
Sweet Jesus, that is not what young people are asking for. Galraedia Dec 2024 #12
Personally claudette Dec 2024 #27
Try electing a 43-year-old. NOBODY would go for it. usonian Dec 2024 #14
OK by me. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #15
Okay, let's run Joe Biden again for 2028 SunImp Dec 2024 #17
Sure, I'm good with that. She's young, healthy and very intelligent. Autumn Dec 2024 #18
well, she'd have to count votes, trade horses, and win. thebigidea Dec 2024 #19
2 things Trenzalore Dec 2024 #21
Couldn't be any worse than what radicalleft Dec 2024 #22
Absolutely not claudette Dec 2024 #26
Did you have a point? dpibel Dec 2024 #28
I'm not sure she could do any worse after the November performance of so called veteran pols. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #31
No JustAnotherGen Dec 2024 #32
Thank you for naming some alternatives. PeaceWave Dec 2024 #34
You know, the Democratic caucus, or the Democratic National Committee, Seeking Serenity Dec 2024 #33
We need leaders who are willing to step up and be bold in their defense of constitutional democracy. lees1975 Dec 2024 #35
I think your OP subject line kinda sucks.... as there appears no chance Jack Valentino Dec 2024 #40
Um... Young people went hard for Donnie Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #42
'Young people went hard for Donnie' is not a factual claim when they are measured in toto. Celerity Dec 2024 #43
Now show me the white dudes... Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #44
AP Votecast numbers for white and black males (all ages), and then 18-44yo white and black males Celerity Dec 2024 #45
White folks screwed us 😔 Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #49
In 2022 DeepWinter Dec 2024 #47
One thing for sure the republican lite Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #48
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