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In reply to the discussion: 'When You Leave Israel and Enter Gaza, You Are God': Inside the Minds of IDF Soldiers Who Commit War Crimes [View all]Celerity
(47,156 posts)25. That is not what you claimed, and only the suspect CAIR poll shows Harris not the winner of a majority of Muslim votes.
None show what you claimed, especially the AP and FOX massive polls.
Arab-Americans overwhelmingly voted for King Donnie
I still say CAIR was skewed via their methodology, a skewing that massively under-counted Harris votes. But even there, Trump was nowhere near 'Arab-Americans overwhelmingly voting for Trump''
That is what you claimed and it is simply not factual. Words matter. I am not going to entertain ex post facto revisionism of your claim that you are now trying to effect.
Yes, a vote for Stein (IF the voter otherwise would have voted for Harris, BUT IF they would have voted for Trump, then it hurts Trump) was the same as a blank vote for POTUS (IF the voter otherwise would have voted for Harris, BUT IF they would have voted for Trump, then it hurts Trump) or a Harris voter staying home (Trump voters staying home obviously hurt Trump).
YES, all three of those above scenarios hurt Harris (as long as they were potential Harris voters), as it denied her a vote and I CONDEMN all 3 types, but they are not the double hammer blow that happens when a Harris voter flipped and actually voted for Trump.
In that case, Harris both loses a vote AND Trump gains one.
The same goes for Trump voter who switches to Harris. It is also a double hammer blow, as Trump loses a vote AND Harris gains one.
IF a Muslim Trump voter was Trump all along (and every election some Muslims vote Rethug, no matter what), then there is neither the double blow nor a single blow.
Same for some of the Stein voters. Some are just never going to vote for any Dem or any Rethug. That happened in 2016, when 40 plus per cent of Stein voters (we are now speaking of all demographics, not just Muslim voters) said if no Stein, then they would have not voted (or voted blank for POTUS).
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'When You Leave Israel and Enter Gaza, You Are God': Inside the Minds of IDF Soldiers Who Commit War Crimes [View all]
WhiskeyGrinder
Dec 23
OP
It's hilarious that you imagine Hamas' surrender would end Bibi's deliberate war of aggression
Orrex
Dec 24
#26
false framing, Haaretz is one of the Israeli newspapers of record and is simply documenting things that you do not like
Celerity
Dec 23
#6
The proper syntax is how much (not how many) is being posted, and it's not just limited to coming from Israel proper
Celerity
Dec 23
#22
No, they did not. AP Votecast & Fox found 63 percent of Muslims voted Harris, CAIR found 53% voted Stein, neither
Celerity
Dec 23
#23
That is not what you claimed, and only the suspect CAIR poll shows Harris not the winner of a majority of Muslim votes.
Celerity
Dec 24
#25