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EarlG

(22,638 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 02:44 PM Yesterday

Continuing the discussion about adding a couple of new forums to DU [View all]

Hi all,

I previously floated the idea that we should open a new forum to discuss the future of the Democratic Party. That thread received a lot of positive responses, and a lot of good name suggestions. Given that most of the suggestions recommended a forward-looking approach, I'm currently considering that we call this forum The Way Forward. I'm still working on a Statement of Purpose, but I think this new forum is a good idea, and something we will do early in the new year.

I'm also going to propose an idea for a second new forum. Here's the deal. The fact is that the noise-to-signal ratio in American politics is off the charts right now, and as we all know, this is something that Donald Trump relishes in, and uses (effectively, unfortunately) to keep his supporters in line and his opponents off balance.

My proposal is that we open a new top-level forum solely for the discussion of whatever the latest Trump BS may be, and I suggest that we call this forum Latest Trump BS. What do I mean by latest Trump BS? I mean anything that he spews out to troll, distract, misinform, or float as a trial balloon, as opposed to things his administration is actually doing in real life.

For example, a news story about a late-night tweet from Trump suggesting that we take over Greenland would be perfect for the Latest Trump BS forum. However, a news story about about Donald Trump directing the Joint Chiefs of Staff to start drawing up invasion plans for Greenland would be more appropriate in General Discussion or Latest Breaking News.

Currently we are set up to treat these stories as if they are the same thing, and so General Discussion gets a mashup of content which mixes Trump's brain farts with his actual policies and actions. But really, they are not the same thing at all, and this seems to be the conundrum that American media is currently struggling with. Because Trump will be president, every single thing he says is treated as if it's newsworthy, even if most of the things he says are more reminiscent of someone's drunk uncle propping up the end of the bar.

Like it or not, we are stuck with Trump for another four years, Meanwhile, Trump fatigue is real -- most of us are suffering from it even now, and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. But we can't NOT talk about Trump for the next four years -- this is a political website, and Donald Trump will be the president.

The idea of this new top-level forum would be to try to separate the noise from the signal -- to provide a place where those who wish to engage with the latest Trump BS are free to do so (I have no criticism of anyone who would want to do that), while those who would like to engage in discussions of the actual real-world ramifications of Trump's actual policies, while avoiding much of the other extraneous BS should they choose to do so, can use GD or LBN.

This would require some finesse, attention from Forum Hosts, and some patience while we work to figure out what goes where, but I think that it might be doable.

That said, we might try it and find out that it's impractical. It might not be easy to figure out which threads should go where, and that might lead to annoyance and confusion among the membership in general.


And so, I present this idea for your consideration. What do you think?

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Well he could croak and do the planet a favor malaise 23 hrs ago #1
I'd chip in to triple size AdamGG 21 hrs ago #53
LOl malaise 20 hrs ago #68
I like it. cilla4progress 23 hrs ago #2
Can we get back the 'creative speculation' forum too? Chin music 23 hrs ago #3
I always thought it was a great place for crack-pots and conspiracy theories. It was nice to have that confined to emulatorloo 20 hrs ago #63
What a rude thing to say. And really unsolicited. Chin music 20 hrs ago #65
I like it ... UpInArms 23 hrs ago #4
Motion to Approve ZDU 23 hrs ago #5
All in favor say Aye! (Loud murmuring) all opposed say No (quieter murmuring) underpants 20 hrs ago #58
LOL ZDU 13 hrs ago #79
Well, it's your website, so go for it. MineralMan 23 hrs ago #6
I approve heartily of both these forums! Absolutely right and thank you, my dear EarlG! nt CaliforniaPeggy 23 hrs ago #7
I'm all in! bif 23 hrs ago #8
Would love that DeepWinter 23 hrs ago #9
EXACTLY! So burnt out with dump posts! Clouds Passing 22 hrs ago #34
I think it's a good idea canetoad 23 hrs ago #10
That's an even BETTER idea!!! Think. Again. 22 hrs ago #44
sometimes this place seems like trumpunderground. how bout a forum for all Trump posts? nt msongs 23 hrs ago #11
Sound like good ideas. 2naSalit 23 hrs ago #12
Yes!!! Thanks! n/t KatK 23 hrs ago #13
Absolutely brilliant ideas, EarlG. Blue Dawn 23 hrs ago #14
Excellent. mahina 23 hrs ago #15
I for one have had it with Trump ItsjustMe 23 hrs ago #16
"Latest Trump BS" is an outstanding idea Mike 03 23 hrs ago #17
"Trump says...." vs what Trump does.... LeftInTX 23 hrs ago #18
Have to admit I laughed out loud at "Latest Trump BS" - TBF 23 hrs ago #19
I like it. sinkingfeeling 22 hrs ago #20
What would happen when drumpf BS gets posted outside that forum? JoseBalow 22 hrs ago #21
I'd say you've identified the concern EarlG 22 hrs ago #27
I can see how distinguishing between BS and real news wnylib 21 hrs ago #50
Honestly... littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #22
Seems a bit "snow flakey" to me, but I appear to be in the minority. Vinca 22 hrs ago #23
See my reply above EarlG 22 hrs ago #28
I support creating both forums Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #24
The party needs to be better organized and responsive. LiberalFighter 22 hrs ago #25
Good idea, I think it will be useful, but... Shipwack 22 hrs ago #26
"Trump's Latest Idiocy" carries more of a punch. n/t SpankMe 22 hrs ago #29
Good Idea FrankTC 22 hrs ago #30
Great ideas. Auggie 22 hrs ago #31
I want to know "what they are actually doing in real life" Tbear 22 hrs ago #32
I like the idea of quarantining news of trump trolling. A lot. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #33
Me too. Think. Again. 22 hrs ago #41
Both Seem Excellent Ideas ProfessorGAC 22 hrs ago #35
I fully support both forum ideas. Mr.Bill 22 hrs ago #36
That is some good parsing of what will probably be reality BumRushDaShow 22 hrs ago #37
Putting all dump news in one forum is an idea I'm on board with. Clouds Passing 22 hrs ago #38
You are very much on to the right ideas, EarlG, & I like where you're going... Hekate 22 hrs ago #39
I absolutely love the "trump BS forum" idea! Think. Again. 22 hrs ago #40
Sounds Good To Me WiVoter 22 hrs ago #42
Brilliant about Keeping TSF's BS in Cha 22 hrs ago #43
YES Jughead 22 hrs ago #45
Hell yes! I like that idea RainCaster 21 hrs ago #46
Well, almost everything tsf does is BS, so maybe "Trump Noise" would be more to the point. eppur_se_muova 21 hrs ago #47
Try it. Some ideas work out, some don't. It's good to find out either way. keithbvadu2 21 hrs ago #48
Agree. Both forums are great ideas. Onthefly 21 hrs ago #49
I like it, Earl! Silver Gaia 21 hrs ago #51
The bs forum is excellent idea... Peer Gynt 21 hrs ago #52
Excellent new idea. Magoo48 21 hrs ago #54
I think these are great ideas - then we'd have a Way Forward forum and AdamGG 21 hrs ago #55
Great ideas. Let's do it, forthwith. (nt) Paladin 21 hrs ago #56
Could "Latest Trump BS" be extended some way to incorporate the BS from Musk? Emrys 21 hrs ago #57
I love it! SallyHemmings 20 hrs ago #59
Love it! happybird 20 hrs ago #60
My suggestion... could we have a Satire/Parody forum? WarGamer 20 hrs ago #61
I think it's a great idea Lulu KC 20 hrs ago #62
Like it, but enforcement could be a nightmare nt berniesandersmittens 20 hrs ago #64
I worry some will define "BS" as... Zenlitened 20 hrs ago #66
As someone who enjoys images of drumpf looking stupid... greatauntoftriplets 20 hrs ago #67
I'm thinking about what Rachel says. ariadne0614 19 hrs ago #69
Exactly proud patriot 17 hrs ago #71
I think a forum for Trump stuff B.See 19 hrs ago #70
Perhaps also one for us Berners Be The Light 16 hrs ago #72
I like it. Give it a try. c-rational 16 hrs ago #73
Like the idea, but NOT seeing TSFs actual name on a forum title... consider_this 15 hrs ago #74
I am still relatively new to DU, so I hesitate to have an opinion about the logistics of new forums, but... yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #75
I like it. flying rabbit 14 hrs ago #76
I like the idea of both additional forums. Ms. Toad 14 hrs ago #77
The ability to move threads would probably make things easier EarlG 3 hrs ago #90
"Trump's Brain Farts" intrepidity 14 hrs ago #78
Sounds good to me. niyad 13 hrs ago #80
You're a 'go' for throttle up from where I sit. WheelWalker 13 hrs ago #81
Trump BS is a 'yes' but The Way Fwd (TWF) gives me anxiety. live love laugh 12 hrs ago #82
Well, the thing is... EarlG 3 hrs ago #91
Thank you EarlG. Hope22 11 hrs ago #83
Let the community decide Shrek 7 hrs ago #84
May I suggest instead of William769 6 hrs ago #85
wouldn't it be fantastic Kali 6 hrs ago #86
Great idea. I am willing to try anything to stop the insanity. mdbl 5 hrs ago #87
Sounds good. n/t defacto7 5 hrs ago #88
An excellent idea, I don't think it should be too confusing, or at least for the most part. msfiddlestix 4 hrs ago #89
Trump tweeting he wants to take Greenland is news HereForTheParty 2 hrs ago #92
Excllent ideas Wild blueberry 2 hrs ago #93
I would try it peggysue2 2 hrs ago #94
We need a forum just for members to complain about CNN and MSNBC on air personalities ZonkerHarris 1 hr ago #95
God yes. Elessar Zappa 44 min ago #98
We should probably add a forum for Privit President Musk while we're at it. n/t Hugin 1 hr ago #96
K&R spanone 58 min ago #97
Separating the BS (Being Said) from the BD (Being Done) is a great idea! HappyLarge 35 min ago #99
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