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usonian

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35. Why is not the question; it's the answer.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 09:45 PM
Dec 2024

Religionists want you to ask the question, because they have the answer. Kindly genuflect and contribute in order to find out.
Religion is about control. You are stamped and inferior and we (who are superior to you) will explain.
You are unlike spiritual beings and your little universe is apart from the heavenly realm. "You must escape it."


NOT

IMO, The purpose of life in the universe is not to find meaning; it's to create meaning: through observation, combined with cognition, combined with life experiences, combined with beneficial actions equally for one and another. Doing so, even -- and especially -- in times of difficulty is what humans are all about, and any "paradise" without obstacles to overcome, especially when we overcome them together, is foreign to us, and why we leave the womb.

Any similarity to The Hitchhiker's Guide or to machines or simulations "evolving" to understand and create meaning out of stored information (they lack two aspects of the above) are outside this discussion.

The universe was not created at "some time". It is created in this moment with our thoughts and actions. We create the "why" (or trash it)

This is the gist of the opening section of The Lotus Sutra, a profoundly egalitarian, empowering, non-judgmental yet deterministic, and visionary work that turns hierarchical and manipulative systems of thought on their heads to this very day. It's metaphorical, not a walk in the park. I'll find (or write) a guide.

Here is one description of the Lotus Sutra

The Lotus Sutra has the drama of fighting for justice against evil. It has a warmth that comforts the weary. It has a vibrant, pulsing courage that drives away fear. It has a chorus of joy at attaining absolute freedom throughout the three existences of past, present and future. It has the soaring flight of liberty. It has brilliant light, flowers, greenery, music, paintings, vivid stories. It offers unsurpassed lessons on psychology, the workings of the human heart, lessons on life, lessons on happiness and lessons on peace. It maps out the basic rules for good health. It awakens us to the universal truth that a change in our heart, or attitude, can transform everything. It is neither the parched desert of individualism nor the prison of totalitarianism; it has the power to manifest a pure land of compassion, in which people complement and encourage each other.

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Why? [View all] angrychair Dec 2024 OP
For its own amusement. Susan Calvin Dec 2024 #1
For amusement. The same reason I would assemble a Lionel train set. 3Hotdogs Dec 2024 #17
A couple of thoughts.... anciano Dec 2024 #2
While I do not believe in any higher power angrychair Dec 2024 #9
I don't know, but George Carlin observed God is supposed to be an omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing being, but.. surfered Dec 2024 #3
Yeah. Fuck all. If Jesus was a smart as we think he is, he would tune into Dave Ramsey every day 3Hotdogs Dec 2024 #19
Humanity was in it's childhood... Think. Again. Dec 2024 #4
Control Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #5
According to the Bible, we are not supposed to make an image of God. Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #6
Good questions LogDog75 Dec 2024 #7
If God was that smart that he wanted the choir of angels and harps, why not just make a choir of angels and harps. That, 3Hotdogs Dec 2024 #20
Either you believe in God, or you believe ... Intractable Dec 2024 #8
I agree with you LogDog75 Dec 2024 #12
From your analogy, the question is where did the two-feet of dirt come from? Intractable Dec 2024 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2024 #42
Divinity JoseBalow Dec 2024 #43
I have faith not religion Marthe48 Dec 2024 #10
I think when we die we are dead. No complex or convoluted explanations needed. elocs Dec 2024 #28
I have the answer. bluescribbler Dec 2024 #11
Matter and energy is, was, and always will be... GiqueCee Dec 2024 #13
"Why?" JoseBalow Dec 2024 #14
Now, that's what I call "putting things into perspective." Intractable Dec 2024 #16
wonderful pics... and then came that last one and i lol'd! nt orleans Dec 2024 #22
In fairness, True Dough Dec 2024 #32
That question was answered at the end of "Venus on the Half Shell" by Kilgore Trout Martin Eden Dec 2024 #18
Art Maeve Dec 2024 #21
Love RainCaster Dec 2024 #23
Good perspective angrychair Dec 2024 #33
Why? Roy Rolling Dec 2024 #24
Nice perspective angrychair Dec 2024 #34
I am an atheist too Americanme Dec 2024 #25
Don't overthink it because that's a fool's errand. n/t elocs Dec 2024 #29
"I think men created the creator, to answer any questions they had no answers for." Talitha Dec 2024 #31
Why didn't Jesus at least educate the people about germs or even the concept of zero ? rickford66 Dec 2024 #26
It's a rigged question to claim to be an "unapologetic atheist" and still expect a 'theological' answer to "Why?" ancianita Dec 2024 #27
I thank you for the thoughtful angrychair Dec 2024 #37
I see. Understood. Thank you. ancianita Dec 2024 #45
I would also ask, what if? Buddyzbuddy Dec 2024 #30
Thank you angrychair Dec 2024 #38
Thank you. I agree with you. Buddyzbuddy Dec 2024 #40
Why is not the question; it's the answer. usonian Dec 2024 #35
To those of us who have had experience with some level of spiritual dimensions, atheism in today's Karadeniz Dec 2024 #36
Thank you angrychair Dec 2024 #39
Yep ! Karadeniz Dec 2024 #44
Why? To be blunt... To see it happen. See full post for context. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 2024 #41
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