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In reply to the discussion: If a person cannot read or write cursive, are they "functionally illiterate?" [View all]appmanga
(971 posts)108. What you "think" doesn't make it true...
...and while I can agree with you about the need of some workers to have such a skill as reading cursive, the fact is while the charts we once learned from show "standard" cursive, most people have developed a personalized version of writing in that form. My cursive looks nothing like anyone else in my family, and it's the same for them. There have been many times where I've deciphered the cursive of others simply by substituting what makes sense based on the shape of the scratching in front of me.
...she decided to defiantly sue the HOSPITAL for "failing to educate her" in this reading/writing requirement she had missed from K-12 and then college-- and then for their subsequent policy to screen, not hire, and to fire those who did not meet that requirement.
And, despite your obvious agitation at this, she's has a right to sue and has grounds for what I think is a pretty good case. And the complaint about her not learning something outside the curricula of all her schooling is beyond grumpy; it's weird. Why would someone attach a lot import to something they're not being taught, and doesn't impair their ability to do well at what they are being taught? I don't know if anyone has ever said to a kid cursive is going to be important to their future, and I don't know how we should expect them to conclude that.
And it's not like those who use cursive are compelled to do so, but for some people, that's standing the the world on its head because the old superiors shouldn't have to (yet again) concede another piece of civilization to the inept and ungrateful young.
That takes some hell of an ego, as does calling the inability to correctly interpret any scrawl thrown in front of one's face being "functionally illiterate".
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If a person cannot read or write cursive, are they "functionally illiterate?" [View all]
PeaceWave
Thursday
OP
Their schools and their teachers failed them by not teaching cursive in grade school
FakeNoose
17 hrs ago
#112
That's a tough one. I think it will, if it hasn't already, become a 'specialized' skill.
Joinfortmill
Thursday
#2
I could see not writing it but seriously, how hard is it to decipher your own language? It's not cuneiform ffs
Blues Heron
Thursday
#6
Errors can be deadly... (or at least lead to massive liability--even for an accounting firm but more so elsewhere)
hlthe2b
Thursday
#15
The failure to understand by so many on this thread, to use their imagination as to where
hlthe2b
Thursday
#29
Alternatively is there a reason that those places that still use cursive actually use it or is it a relic?
EdmondDantes_
Thursday
#50
I wrote here and in great detail upstream why this is not the case now. Given you refuse to read
hlthe2b
Thursday
#51
Why should an entire office abandon using cursive just because a new employee isn't able to read it? n/t
MichMan
Thursday
#71
Maybe there's a good reason why organizations distributing hard-copy forms to be filled out
Emrys
5 hrs ago
#144
I get that you have no clue that hospitals have records that include scanned notes, as does their pharmacy
hlthe2b
18 hrs ago
#106
When the debate opponent puts words in your mouth or makes assumptions about your past
ThreeNoSeep
17 hrs ago
#110
Again, you show you have no clue about what several of us are speaking to in medicine
hlthe2b
17 hrs ago
#111
It is not merely what I think. It is fact and 24 states thus far are putting cursive back in educational
hlthe2b
18 hrs ago
#109
One more instance of the disdain people have for preceding generations. Everone should be taught to READ cursive.
LAS14
Thursday
#25
As evidenced by your students, the bulk of it ought to be decipherable...
consider_this
Thursday
#59
Late boomer here. I haven't written in true cursive since college exams the 1980s.
Eugene
Thursday
#33
If reading cursive was a job requirement, it.should have been stated as such clearly and up-front
0rganism
Thursday
#39
There are dozens of job duties for nearly every job that aren't specifically mentioned in job requirements
MichMan
Thursday
#52
So you're comparing not reading cursive to showing up drunk and swearing at customers?
0rganism
Thursday
#66
I'm saying people can & are held accountable for a myriad of things that aren't specifically mentioned in an interview
MichMan
Thursday
#70
Reading and writing cursive is a skill, not drinking on the job and not stealing aren't skills.
Ms. Toad
Thursday
#78
So what happens to legal documents if someone doesn't have a "signature"? Presume
allegorical oracle
Thursday
#49
Like many of these anecdotes about the world of work and "the younger generation",
Emrys
Thursday
#56
If you can't write cursive how do sign a check, like in the westerns where they made their mark?
doc03
Thursday
#64
I rarely sign checks nowadays, but when I do, my signature's degraded into a stylized squiggle.
Emrys
Thursday
#68
Although I think everyone should know it, I also feel that's it's kinda dumb to use it in 2024
Polybius
Thursday
#81
Another generation-division post. It means the employee isn't ambitious enough to take a little time to learn, doesn't
betsuni
Yesterday
#89
If a person cannot read or write classic Latin, are they functionally illiterate?
DBoon
19 hrs ago
#101
Writing in cursive is one of the few things the young people around me are highly impressed by.
appmanga
18 hrs ago
#103
Teaching kids cursive is actually quite easy and I did it as "bell work" every morning.
La Coliniere
18 hrs ago
#107
No. Just because something is illegible to you does not mean you're illiterate.
WhiskeyGrinder
17 hrs ago
#115
I wouldn't call it illiterate. In this case, I would say, they lack a skill that is required for this particular job.
Betty Boom
9 hrs ago
#123
I'm much more interested in people who know how to use a keyboard than read/produce scribble.
Gore1FL
9 hrs ago
#127
Just did a quick job search. There are 75+ jobs listing the ability to read cursive.
Renew Deal
6 hrs ago
#139