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Avalon Sparks

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162. Pathetic

Fri Dec 27, 2024, 06:42 PM

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Because Israel’s policies are illegal and so egregious, the only real rhetorical defense they have is to conflate Israel/Zionism with Judaism and accuse everyone critical of their barbaric crimes of being anti-semitic. This is an ad hominem attack and should be viewed as a childish and pathetic attempt at debate

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I am sick of the slaughter in Gaza [View all] malaise Thursday OP

The Palestinian terrorists releasing all of the hostages would likely go a long way to achieving this Jose Garcia Thursday #1

Obviously, Bebe doesn't care about the hostages womanofthehills Thursday #7

How did the need to get them back materialize? Beastly Boy Yesterday #64

But when you look at the news and the genocide do you recall? arthritisR_US Yesterday #72

Social and for-profit news media knows jack shit about genocide, Beastly Boy Yesterday #77

So who/where is your source of information? arthritisR_US Yesterday #81

It depends on what my purpose is. Beastly Boy Yesterday #95

I've given up. Voltaire2 Thursday #2

I've given up too. Last year at this time I tended to have Mike 03 Thursday #20

What one does depends on how important the issue is Kaleva Yesterday #83

The "American people" voted to let it go on... Wounded Bear Thursday #3

Would a Harris administration do more to stop it than Biden did? Martin Eden Yesterday #104

They've got their hotels and casinos designed and ready to go, as soon as the bloody mess is bulldozed over. msfiddlestix Yesterday #120

Who are "they"? Where are the designs? Beastly Boy Yesterday #122

There's a "concept" of a design. MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #123

Oh... My bad. My total lack of compassion for humanity blinded me to a concept of a design. Shame on me. Beastly Boy Yesterday #124

..... msfiddlestix Yesterday #131

Well there's this guy: Dave Bowman Yesterday #140

So the "they" are just one guy. Beastly Boy Yesterday #163

It was an example, as you very well know. Dave Bowman Yesterday #170

An example of what? Beastly Boy Yesterday #176

Lol. Keep digging, Beast. Dave Bowman Yesterday #179

Stop Being Silly IamHappy 23 hrs ago #180

Believe me, I am very serious. Beastly Boy 23 hrs ago #181

Wait! H2O Man Yesterday #165

Of course, silly me. :) Dave Bowman Yesterday #168

I blame Hamas for hiding in, around and under its women and children. elias7 Thursday #4

Curious, no blame from you for the murderous warmongers Netanyahu/likud/IDF commanders who keep bombing the shit... brush Thursday #6

A curious deflection into something that's only been mentioned a couple of dozen times in this thread alone... Beastly Boy Yesterday #63

Which should tell you how biased, one-sided unfeeling and bereft of humanity your op is. Get a clue. brush Yesterday #65

Tell me more about the bias. and give more examples, please. Beastly Boy Yesterday #67

Oh, it's you, BB. I hadn't noticed before. I know ou're totally one-sided on the matter... brush Yesterday #69

My empathy is no one's business but my own. Beastly Boy Yesterday #73

Let's not go any further with this, pls. brush Yesterday #75

That is my wish, and I appreciate your offer. Beastly Boy Yesterday #79

"my empathy for Gazan civilians, in deed and not in word, is likely to exceed that of the most vocal performers here on Dave Bowman 15 hrs ago #185

Here that whooshing sound going over your head? MarineCombatEngineer 12 hrs ago #190

For some ForgedCrank 8 hrs ago #194

No, but I certainly feel superior to the purveyors of performative outrage, and not just on DU. Beastly Boy 9 hrs ago #193

Never malaise 15 hrs ago #187

When America drs are seeing toddlers with gun shots in their heads womanofthehills Thursday #9

You are aware they came to power directly with Bibi support years ago? IbogaProject Thursday #12

Did you see these articles from Haaretz? people Thursday #13

This. So much this. ZRB Thursday #15

Israel imilitary just assumes that any Palestinian man is Hamas erodriguez Thursday #22

Israel's produced precious little evidence that snot Thursday #26

This message was self-deleted by its author spapeggy Thursday #27

What you write PhylliPretzel Thursday #30

Except confessions of Hamas leaders of doing just that. Beastly Boy Yesterday #71

Post those videos, we would like to see your proof. arthritisR_US Yesterday #80

If you insist. Beastly Boy Yesterday #96

"confessions of Hamas leaders" Dave Bowman Yesterday #87

Doesn't look like these Hamas terrorists are being tortured, does it? Beastly Boy Yesterday #97

This is a good example of non sequitur with a dash of Israeli propaganda and two scoops of bullshit in the mix. Dave Bowman Yesterday #137

Are you saying they DO look like they are being tortured? Beastly Boy Yesterday #142

I wasn't talking about these guys and your reply has nothing to do with the op. Dave Bowman Yesterday #147

Wait a minute... let me process this... was I supposed to reply to YOUR post with something that has to do with the OP Beastly Boy Yesterday #156

"your ridiculous presumption that ALL of them were tortured?" Dave Bowman Yesterday #166

Why a diversion all of a sudden? Beastly Boy Yesterday #173

This doesn't work for BB any more uponit7771 Thursday #32

Look what you made us do" is the mentality of abusers & psychopaths. Avalon Sparks Thursday #42

I blame the gullible and/or complicit for uncritically spewing Israeli propaganda. AloeVera Thursday #56

Don't support Starbucks either, every cup of beverage purchased, a percentage goes to Israel. People akbacchus_BC Yesterday #111

Are you telling me there are still progressive types overpaying for that muddy piss just to show off? Beastly Boy Yesterday #125

Spot on! thank you. comradebillyboy Yesterday #113

Congo and Darfur are much more concerning Fichefinder Thursday #5

No place is more concerning than the other womanofthehills Thursday #10

Uh huh. How curious far worse slaughters NEVER get mentioned Arazi Thursday #11

Excellent observation. There are any number of comradebillyboy Yesterday #115

Then please do post some OPs on them iemanja Yesterday #85

Nobody really cares about those places because comradebillyboy Yesterday #116

We cared about Iraq iemanja Yesterday #145

No words for Sudan again I see... Arazi Thursday #8

I'm curious quakerboy Thursday #19

The OP is about the slaughter of innocents Arazi Thursday #21

The dead and hungry quakerboy Thursday #41

US involvement isn't the point of the OP however Arazi Thursday #43

Id say it is. quakerboy Thursday #48

Why can't we effect change in Darfur? Or Congo? Arazi Thursday #49

How? quakerboy Yesterday #74

Removing US aid would not stop Israeli action in Gaza Arazi Yesterday #92

I dont agree. Period. quakerboy Yesterday #134

I just did a search under your name for Darfur, Congo, and Sudan iemanja Yesterday #82

It's not about *my* fixation Arazi Yesterday #93

Your singular point iemanja Yesterday #144

It's a very short post and not difficult to read iemanja Yesterday #78

Again I repeat, it's not *my* fixation Arazi Yesterday #94

You're the one continually raising it as an excuse. iemanja Yesterday #143

I'm curious sarisataka Thursday #23

There is a difference in power over the situation, in my perception quakerboy Thursday #40

No, but it makes us as taxpayers complicit in the genocide iemanja Yesterday #84

Just to show how superficial and fallacious this argument is, Beastly Boy Yesterday #99

62,000 is the number of dead I see for Sudan womanofthehills Thursday #53

Sudan: "..up to 150,000 people had been killed in the conflict across the country." EX500rider Yesterday #66

Whataboutism iemanja Yesterday #76

me too BlueWaveNeverEnd Thursday #14

Why do posts like this never mention Hamas? perdita9 Thursday #16

Because Hamas are "freedom fighters like Mandela" BannonsLiver Thursday #37

Hamas: mr715 Thursday #52

Because it's not a war - it's a one way slaughter womanofthehills Thursday #54

So who's been killing IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians? Beastly Boy Yesterday #62

Hamas and Hezbollah did not form in a political vacuum. lees1975 Yesterday #70

Of course not. They wouldn't exist if Iran didn't prop them up in their quest to destabilize the entire region. Beastly Boy Yesterday #102

The reason for their formation and existence was present long before Iran got involved. lees1975 Yesterday #114

Hamas was founded in 1987. Hezbollah was founded in 1985. Beastly Boy Yesterday #119

I think you are well aware of the reason. Just as an example, after Oct 7, there was sparce condemnation of what Hamas JohnSJ Yesterday #106

Great post. MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #117

Because now it's not Hamas doing the slaughtering? AloeVera Yesterday #157

It is a reason there will never be peace. Violence begets violence and revenge seems to be a basic human instinct. surfered Thursday #17

real talk: no one. quakerboy Thursday #18

K&R 2naSalit Thursday #24

The bib got dump elected. Clouds Passing Thursday #25

Others want credit as well sarisataka Thursday #35

Hamas is going to stop "Bibi and the Complicit West" by returning the hostages. maxsolomon Thursday #28

I gave up on Israel when Bibi MuchBetterThanThis Thursday #29

Aid enid602 Thursday #39

The hostages have been in the terror tunnels for well over a year. Richard D Thursday #31

Someone give Israel their own planet, in another galaxy please Avalon Sparks Thursday #45

If you can't care about the hostages Hamas took, you can't care about the civilians killed in the war either NickB79 Thursday #46

You're right . . . Richard D Thursday #47

Oh I know revenge has nothing to do with it. Avalon Sparks Yesterday #89

This word salad is as meaningless as it is familiar. Beastly Boy Yesterday #105

It infuriates me. AloeVera Yesterday #127

Ah so Jewish people defending themselves is pure evil. ZRB Yesterday #139

Evil is evil, even when Jews are committing it. AloeVera Yesterday #153

Wanna cracker, Polly? Dave Bowman 21 hrs ago #183

"False atrocity propaganda" . . . Richard D Yesterday #148

Touched a nerve... AloeVera Yesterday #155

Pathetic Avalon Sparks Yesterday #162

Are you for real? Mossfern Yesterday #160

Plenty of information from reputable Human Rights organizations Avalon Sparks Yesterday #167

I'm talking about the atrocities of 10/7 Mossfern Yesterday #169

Here's your answer Avalon Sparks Yesterday #171

Uncaptured media Mossfern Yesterday #177

You hit the nail on the head. AloeVera Thursday #59

Excellent points AloeVera Avalon Sparks Yesterday #90

That's a gross overestimation. Beastly Boy Yesterday #108

The sad and harsh truth malaise Yesterday #100

That's the problem. You don't care enough to ask yourself what the reason for such discrepancy is. Beastly Boy Yesterday #101

Bingo. Cruelty is what netenyahu has unleashed on the Palestinians. That was his goal all along and akbacchus_BC Yesterday #112

If cruelty was his goal all along, Beastly Boy Yesterday #126

Everything you say is what Israel is doing to their prisoners womanofthehills Thursday #55

Who has the video? How many hostages are "many"? Beastly Boy Yesterday #109

And guess what? MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #118

Ha. Only because there is video. AloeVera Yesterday #172

Ha!!! MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #174

Some divides are chasms too wide and deep to bridge, MCE AloeVera 20 hrs ago #184

I do love a good challenge. MarineCombatEngineer 12 hrs ago #189

"Who is going to stop Bibi and the complicit West?" J_William_Ryan Thursday #33

This is, unfortunately, the way it is calguy Thursday #34

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Thursday #36

This kind The Bopper Thursday #38

So am I. It's far past time for Hamas to surrender. tritsofme Thursday #44

You, my friend, are not the only one sick of the IDF shit! Genocide, plainly. Jit423 Thursday #50

THIS malaise Thursday #58

Answer: mr715 Thursday #51

What's the likelihood of that? AloeVera Thursday #57

As likely as democracy to win at home mr715 Yesterday #68

I don't see it. AloeVera Yesterday #159

And now they have bombed the last hospital malaise 15 hrs ago #188

Three babies froze to death in the last few days. AloeVera 9 hrs ago #192

Not to defend how out of proportion edhopper Thursday #60

Feeling pretty healthy about the far worse slaughter everywhere else? Beastly Boy Thursday #61

Bibi isn't at blame. He is responding to the threat to his people. Groundhawg Yesterday #86

I watched a great documentary the other evening. It's called "The Bibi Files". Dave Bowman Yesterday #88

Why the 7 Oct 2023 Attack in Southern Israel? C0RI0LANUS Yesterday #91

Are we justifyig hostage taking now? Beastly Boy Yesterday #110

Ask Donnie Blue_Tires Yesterday #98

Beyond sick. marble falls Yesterday #103

Netanyahu is setting up World War. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #107

Those that murder civilians are never the "Good Guys". Ping Tung Yesterday #121

What is your opinion about killing illegal combatants who commit a war crime of perfidy? Beastly Boy Yesterday #128

The same as my opinions about "legal" combatants who kill, starve, torture civilians. Ping Tung Yesterday #129

Which is... what, exactly? Beastly Boy Yesterday #130

That they're war criminals. Ping Tung Yesterday #132

Ok, I must have misunderstood the purpose of your post. Beastly Boy Yesterday #135

OK Mossfern Yesterday #161

The only thing that works in stopping a bully OP is ThePartyThatListens Yesterday #133

How about the Arab countries, get off their asses, and make some demands of Bibi, and rescue fellow Arabs? amuse bouche Yesterday #136

I believe that you have a good point. nt Dave Bowman Yesterday #138

You see there's a really good reason for that... ZRB Yesterday #141

Who is the pro-Hamas crowd? iemanja Yesterday #146

I don't know what else to call people parroting Hamas propaganda ZRB Yesterday #150

Systematically bombing hospitals is mass murder iemanja Yesterday #154

What systematic bombing of hospitals? ZRB Yesterday #178

There are 22 Arab countries amuse bouche 10 hrs ago #191

Everywhere I look...I see HAMAS! Lemons UK Yesterday #149

I hate it too, but it isn't just Bibi and the west. 58Sunliner Yesterday #151

Hamas can stop it's terrorist activities. nycbos Yesterday #152

No one in power cares... WarGamer Yesterday #158

And I'm sick of the anti Israel propaganda posted here. MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #164

"anti Israel propaganda posted here" Dave Bowman 22 hrs ago #182

Am I lost? LiberaBlueDem Yesterday #175

Yes, unfortunately I noticed that also. That's a damn shame. Dave Bowman 15 hrs ago #186

Democrats aren't pacifists. Mosby 2 hrs ago #200

The continued slaughter is no longer self defense within the confines of this current war Martin Eden 6 hrs ago #195

Israel should continue to degrade Hamas Mosby 5 hrs ago #196

"They don't want a country, they want to destroy Israel." Martin Eden 5 hrs ago #199

I think Native Americans might have come to that conclusion too. y AloeVera 19 min ago #203

A very thoughtful response malaise 5 hrs ago #197

The US is protecting our interests there.. by supporting Israel Arazi 53 min ago #201

But no issue with the higher death counts in other recent wars? EX500rider 5 hrs ago #198

Gaza is the worst slaughter of civilians in a "war" by any measure in the last 20 years or more. AloeVera 44 min ago #202