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hunter

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150. The last time I was in the E.R. the doctor was accompanied by a medical scribe...
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 12:18 PM
Dec 2024

... who was entering all my information on an electronic tablet.

When I worked in a blood bank we were simply not allowed to use handwritten notes for anything critical. Everything had to go through the computers. There was a backup plan in case a nuclear attack or other catastrophe took out all the computers and everyone was supposedly trained for that, but honestly, running everything manually using procedures and paperwork developed during the Korean War would have been mayhem. Patients would have died.

I still struggle to read and write cursive. Grades five through seven were a misery for me until I learned to type. It was a significant learning disability that made me hate school.

Things change. We'll probably never return to the days when every "well educated" person had beautiful cursive handwriting, read and wrote Classical Latin, and knew their way around the Bible.

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No, and sigh: 'not this shit again'. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #1
๐’ฎ๐’ถ๐“Ž๐“ˆ ๐“Œ๐’ฝ๐‘œ? mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2024 #5
not actually cursive, 'cursive like'. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #7
If I wrote it in my own handwriting, no one could read it. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2024 #14
I can't read mine. multigraincracker Dec 2024 #26
" If I wrote it in my own handwriting" - ok, Dr. Mahatmakanejeeves FSogol Dec 2024 #47
I am getting Rebl2 Dec 2024 #63
Not their fault Conjuay Dec 2024 #158
Agree with Voltaire 2 indigovalley Dec 2024 #16
Or people could learn the skill SheltieLover Dec 2024 #24
but why? It isn't required for any practical skills. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #38
Pls see post 15 & 21 below SheltieLover Dec 2024 #41
Many other things make that connection and are much more practical JCMach1 Dec 2024 #79
There is no excuse for relinquishing any common form of communication SheltieLover Dec 2024 #82
Do you do calligraphy? Long math? Use a slide rule? JCMach1 Dec 2024 #83
Those are obviously not common forms of communication SheltieLover Dec 2024 #84
Can you read Middle English? What about Old English? JCMach1 Dec 2024 #86
Pls see posts #15 & 21 SheltieLover Dec 2024 #87
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2024 #90
Language literacy and grammar evolve JCMach1 Dec 2024 #96
That's just it: it is no longer a "common form of communication" NickB79 Dec 2024 #97
Clearly it is or these employees wouldn't be fired. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #120
Exactly Betty Boom Dec 2024 #124
Why? Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #43
very good point. raccoon Dec 2024 #91
It is required in Germany. Conjuay Dec 2024 #160
Yes, to be licensed to drive a manual, but you can take the test in an automatic car. You will have an 'auto only' code Celerity Dec 2024 #163
+9999 krawhitham Dec 2024 #18
My daugher is 16 DeepWinter Dec 2024 #27
I always saw it as a creative opportunity TexasBushwhacker Dec 2024 #119
When I learned cursive it was the opposite of a creative opportunity. Mariana Dec 2024 #132
As well as pencils to that same degree. Torchlight Dec 2024 #61
So much shit is being thrown to the wayside by the new generation. William769 Dec 2024 #95
Their schools and their teachers failed them by not teaching cursive in grade school FakeNoose Dec 2024 #112
Because they were too busy paying for year round DenaliDemocrat Dec 2024 #178
Well said. Captain Stern Dec 2024 #113
You called it. ThreeNoSeep Dec 2024 #114
It's clearly not Betty Boom Dec 2024 #122
Nope. Most historical documents are in cursive DenaliDemocrat Dec 2024 #176
That's a tough one. I think it will, if it hasn't already, become a 'specialized' skill. Joinfortmill Dec 2024 #2
handwriting need not be 'cursive'. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #8
I believe in this conversation we are discussing cursive. Joinfortmill Dec 2024 #19
That's hand printing, not hand writing. Conjuay Dec 2024 #161
Handwriting is any writing done by hand, whether it's lettered or cursive. Mariana Dec 2024 #172
Yes! "Handwriting" is also what MY schools called it! raging moderate Dec 2024 #179
Slight correction Betty Boom Dec 2024 #121
This needs to be underscored. Displayed prominently on the web page is: JHB Dec 2024 #142
Not all cursive is the same. padfun Dec 2024 #3
Put cursive back in schools. Problem solved. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #4
90 days? Thats funny.. getagrip_already Dec 2024 #34
Maybe you're right. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #35
Better to solve the problem by teaching an actual useful skill Orrex Dec 2024 #117
I could see not writing it but seriously, how hard is it to decipher your own language? It's not cuneiform ffs Blues Heron Dec 2024 #6
Depends on the chicken scratch you are trying to decipher krawhitham Dec 2024 #20
Yup. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #77
Partly claudette Dec 2024 #9
I have been reading/writing cursive for most of my life The Madcap Dec 2024 #10
No being able to read cursive writing isn't an handicap LogDog75 Dec 2024 #11
That makes too much sense. Haggard Celine Dec 2024 #129
In 2024, no. RockRaven Dec 2024 #12
But shorthand was never universal among literate people SheltieLover Dec 2024 #23
I haven't needed that function for a looooong time. Iggo Dec 2024 #13
Errors can be deadly... (or at least lead to massive liability--even for an accounting firm but more so elsewhere) hlthe2b Dec 2024 #15
Concur with this Sympthsical Dec 2024 #22
The failure to understand by so many on this thread, to use their imagination as to where hlthe2b Dec 2024 #29
I'm with you SheltieLover Dec 2024 #44
Alternatively is there a reason that those places that still use cursive actually use it or is it a relic? EdmondDantes_ Dec 2024 #50
I wrote here and in great detail upstream why this is not the case now. Given you refuse to read hlthe2b Dec 2024 #51
Speaking for myself, it's not that we don't understand, we just don't agree. Emrys Dec 2024 #62
Why should an entire office abandon using cursive just because a new employee isn't able to read it? n/t MichMan Dec 2024 #71
Because it could save lives? That seems a good enough reason to me. Emrys Dec 2024 #75
If the computer system Karma13612 Dec 2024 #137
Maybe there's a good reason why organizations distributing hard-copy forms to be filled out Emrys Dec 2024 #144
Thank you! Agree 100%- eom Karma13612 Dec 2024 #131
Absolutely! SheltieLover Dec 2024 #45
The problem was that some idiot thought that writing a note in cursive... hunter Dec 2024 #88
way to TOTALLY miss the point. hlthe2b Dec 2024 #92
Thank you!!!! Betty Boom Dec 2024 #125
The last time I was in the E.R. the doctor was accompanied by a medical scribe... hunter Dec 2024 #150
AGAIN! You TOTALLY MISS THE POINT. Of course hospitals are computerized at every turn. But that hlthe2b Dec 2024 #151
To be clear, I actually *can* read and write cursive. hunter Dec 2024 #162
What kind of a hospital uses cursive for warning labels? ThreeNoSeep Dec 2024 #105
I get that you have no clue that hospitals have records that include scanned notes, as does their pharmacy hlthe2b Dec 2024 #106
When the debate opponent puts words in your mouth or makes assumptions about your past ThreeNoSeep Dec 2024 #110
Again, you show you have no clue about what several of us are speaking to in medicine hlthe2b Dec 2024 #111
Can I just say... Betty Boom Dec 2024 #128
What you "think" doesn't make it true... appmanga Dec 2024 #108
It is not merely what I think. It is fact and 24 states thus far are putting cursive back in educational hlthe2b Dec 2024 #109
I am relieved to Karma13612 Dec 2024 #141
Glad to hear it is being included again! SheltieLover Dec 2024 #152
Thank you for this Betty Boom Dec 2024 #126
Bravo!!!!! Karma13612 Dec 2024 #133
Another great point you make! SheltieLover Dec 2024 #153
Lockout/tagout was standard procedure decades ago where I worked Mariana Dec 2024 #135
Certainly not canetoad Dec 2024 #17
Depends on the job, but geneally I'd say yes. SheltieLover Dec 2024 #21
One more instance of the disdain people have for preceding generations. Everone should be taught to READ cursive. LAS14 Dec 2024 #25
No... Mike Nelson Dec 2024 #28
LOL Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #30
My Take ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #31
As evidenced by your students, the bulk of it ought to be decipherable... consider_this Dec 2024 #59
Had A Thought ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #65
I quite like your idea, especially... consider_this Dec 2024 #80
no. BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2024 #32
Late boomer here. I haven't written in true cursive since college exams the 1980s. Eugene Dec 2024 #33
Me neither. Mike 03 Dec 2024 #37
The test shouldn't be "can I read this person's handwriting" Mike 03 Dec 2024 #36
I suppose I could have written software in cursive. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #42
If reading cursive was a job requirement, it.should have been stated as such clearly and up-front 0rganism Dec 2024 #39
There are dozens of job duties for nearly every job that aren't specifically mentioned in job requirements MichMan Dec 2024 #52
So you're comparing not reading cursive to showing up drunk and swearing at customers? 0rganism Dec 2024 #66
I'm saying people can & are held accountable for a myriad of things that aren't specifically mentioned in an interview MichMan Dec 2024 #70
Well, there's cursive and there's curse-ive 0rganism Dec 2024 #73
Reading and writing cursive is a skill, not drinking on the job and not stealing aren't skills. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #78
Agreed it doesn't make them "illiterate"; but snot Dec 2024 #40
I had to learn cursive.... Xolodno Dec 2024 #46
No. Of course not. NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #48
So what happens to legal documents if someone doesn't have a "signature"? Presume allegorical oracle Dec 2024 #49
It doesn't have to be cursive. It can just be terrible handwriting. sakabatou Dec 2024 #53
No. Xoan Dec 2024 #54
How do you sign you name if you don't know cursive? bif Dec 2024 #55
Like many of these anecdotes about the world of work and "the younger generation", Emrys Dec 2024 #56
Just Google the scribbles The Madcap Dec 2024 #57
Of course they're not functionally illiterate, but Susan Calvin Dec 2024 #58
Don't think Rebl2 Dec 2024 #60
If you can't write cursive how do sign a check, like in the westerns where they made their mark? doc03 Dec 2024 #64
I rarely sign checks nowadays, but when I do, my signature's degraded into a stylized squiggle. Emrys Dec 2024 #68
I remember getting my first letter that was printed out from a computer Mossfern Dec 2024 #67
cursive is also good brain exercise. WarGamer Dec 2024 #69
I can write cursive with both hands -- and no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #72
While I ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #74
No. Would that exclude Braille? underpants Dec 2024 #76
Although I think everyone should know it, I also feel that's it's kinda dumb to use it in 2024 Polybius Dec 2024 #81
No, they aren't. No one is taught cursive in schools anymore. iemanja Dec 2024 #85
Another generation-division post. It means the employee isn't ambitious enough to take a little time to learn, doesn't betsuni Dec 2024 #89
If it's clearly written there shouldn't be any problem. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2024 #93
Wow, we were taught cursive starting in the first grade. Emile Dec 2024 #94
Replace "cursive" with "Latin" and see how silly this discussion sounds NickB79 Dec 2024 #98
I learning Latin is a good deal more difficult thucythucy Dec 2024 #104
Well, most people over a certain age write in cursive - you'd have as much luck asking my mother to write letters in Midwestern Democrat Dec 2024 #148
I'd make them read the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence Historic NY Dec 2024 #99
no, unless the hire didn't think to plug it into an AI, in which case yes cadoman Dec 2024 #100
If a person cannot read or write classic Latin, are they functionally illiterate? DBoon Dec 2024 #101
I look at this from the other direction Unwind Your Mind Dec 2024 #102
Writing in cursive is one of the few things the young people around me are highly impressed by. appmanga Dec 2024 #103
Teaching kids cursive is actually quite easy and I did it as "bell work" every morning. La Coliniere Dec 2024 #107
Teaching adults cursive is even easier. Mariana Dec 2024 #140
No. Just because something is illegible to you does not mean you're illiterate. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #115
Lol @ obsolete hobby skills dubiously deemed essential Orrex Dec 2024 #116
All offense intended, but that partner sounds like an asshole Rob H. Dec 2024 #118
I wouldn't call it illiterate. In this case, I would say, they lack a skill that is required for this particular job. Betty Boom Dec 2024 #123
I'm much more interested in people who know how to use a keyboard than read/produce scribble. Gore1FL Dec 2024 #127
Consequence comes home to roost... dobleremolque Dec 2024 #130
Did it occur to you to give the kid a handwriting book Mariana Dec 2024 #138
. dobleremolque Dec 2024 #145
I had a mild stroke in 2016. Jeebo Dec 2024 #134
No, they are not "functionally illiterate" Renew Deal Dec 2024 #136
Just did a quick job search. There are 75+ jobs listing the ability to read cursive. Renew Deal Dec 2024 #139
Bookmarking! Drum Dec 2024 #143
This has been going on for a long time, couple of decades at least. mucholderthandirt Dec 2024 #146
I remember my fundie home-schooled nephew struggling publicly to read travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #147
We had cursive font letters above the chalkboard in Emile Dec 2024 #149
Teacher here J-9 Dec 2024 #154
A signature does not have to be written in cursive. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #155
Taking time to sign something is a sign of respect to those to whom we address a document. PeaceWave Dec 2024 #157
That has nothing to do with whether a something other than cursive Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #165
No, but if the job requires reading cursive it could be disqualifying not to be able to nini Dec 2024 #159
I addressed that issue above. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #164
My reply is in the wrong place...sorry nini Dec 2024 #167
That is not the question I was addressing. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #169
If the job requires reading cursive, the employer should teach the employee. Mariana Dec 2024 #173
Yup. I've had to "sign" legal NDAs on e-forms in order to work for some clients Emrys Dec 2024 #166
My signature is a bump followed by a nearly straight line Kaleva Dec 2024 #168
I've usuallly got a couple of loops near the beginning Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #171
Young, straight-out-of-college, GenZer should have known ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2024 #156
They were probably forbidden to use those apps. Mariana Dec 2024 #174
The apps might be forbidden if your work requires a security clearance. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2024 #175
I can neither print or write cursive Kaleva Dec 2024 #170
Cursive is just a way to write faster. Patton French Dec 2024 #177
If it's a way to write faster, as you say, then why should it go extinct? That makes no sense. PeaceWave Dec 2024 #182
Because people don't use pen and paper anywhere near as much as when cursive was a thing Patton French Dec 2024 #183
Failure to teach cursive is furthering the United States falling behind the rest of the world. madaboutharry Dec 2024 #180
Without a device cannot communicate ... LSparkle Dec 2024 #181
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