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Beastly Boy

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225. You are presuming that hiding among civilians in humanitarian zones is not an atrocity.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 01:20 PM
Dec 2024

You are presuming that "martyring" them as a deliberate strategy to achieve military and political objectives is not an atrocity.

You are presuming that firing missiles from schools and mosques across international borders into civilian population cent3rs in Israel is not an atrocity.

You are presuming that turning refugee centers into military objects on a regular basis is not an atrocity.

You are presumong that stealing food and medical supplies from the civilians they are supposed to protect is not an atrocity.

You are presuming that any atrocity inflicted on the Gazans by Hamas, PIJ, and a whole alphabet of terrorist factions is not an atrocity.

And these atrocities are happening in front of you now, and have been happening for nearly 15 months.

But, to paraphrase Orwell, you are presuming that some atrocities are more equal than others.

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The Palestinian terrorists releasing all of the hostages would likely go a long way to achieving this Jose Garcia Dec 2024 #1
Obviously, Bebe doesn't care about the hostages womanofthehills Dec 2024 #7
How did the need to get them back materialize? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #64
But when you look at the news and the genocide do you recall? arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #72
Social and for-profit news media knows jack shit about genocide, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #77
So who/where is your source of information? arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #81
It depends on what my purpose is. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #95
And, after that, I still wait a few days, sometimes the "real" information takes awhile to come out. nt yagotme Dec 2024 #226
I've given up. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #2
I've given up too. Last year at this time I tended to have Mike 03 Dec 2024 #20
What one does depends on how important the issue is Kaleva Dec 2024 #83
The "American people" voted to let it go on... Wounded Bear Dec 2024 #3
Would a Harris administration do more to stop it than Biden did? Martin Eden Dec 2024 #104
I actually think she would have. At least I hoped so, but now it will likely get much worse under Trump. Celerity Dec 2024 #235
Two possible reasons Kamala didn't say she would withold bombs from Israel Martin Eden Dec 2024 #240
Both I would say. Good points. Celerity Dec 2024 #241
Aside from electoral politics, the BIG question remains: Martin Eden Dec 2024 #242
The opposite of what Trump will likely do. Celerity Dec 2024 #243
They've got their hotels and casinos designed and ready to go, as soon as the bloody mess is bulldozed over. msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #120
Who are "they"? Where are the designs? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #122
There's a "concept" of a design. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #123
Oh... My bad. My total lack of compassion for humanity blinded me to a concept of a design. Shame on me. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #124
..... msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #131
Well there's this guy: Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #140
So the "they" are just one guy. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #163
It was an example, as you very well know. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #170
An example of what? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #176
Lol. Keep digging, Beast. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #179
Stop Being Silly IamHappy Dec 2024 #180
Believe me, I am very serious. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #181
Wait! H2O Man Dec 2024 #165
Of course, silly me. :) Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #168
I blame Hamas for hiding in, around and under its women and children. elias7 Dec 2024 #4
Curious, no blame from you for the murderous warmongers Netanyahu/likud/IDF commanders who keep bombing the shit... brush Dec 2024 #6
A curious deflection into something that's only been mentioned a couple of dozen times in this thread alone... Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #63
Which should tell you how biased, one-sided unfeeling and bereft of humanity your op is. Get a clue. brush Dec 2024 #65
Tell me more about the bias. and give more examples, please. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #67
Oh, it's you, BB. I hadn't noticed before. I know ou're totally one-sided on the matter... brush Dec 2024 #69
My empathy is no one's business but my own. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #73
Let's not go any further with this, pls. brush Dec 2024 #75
That is my wish, and I appreciate your offer. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #79
"my empathy for Gazan civilians, in deed and not in word, is likely to exceed that of the most vocal performers here on Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #185
Here that whooshing sound going over your head? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #190
For some ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #194
For others, discerning between a logic-based opinion and a strawman argument is a real struggle. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #218
And my ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #223
...What was your point again? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #227
It is ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #228
Since I am not getting your point, and since you replied to my post, and not post #190, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #233
I'll go over it, but in smaller pieces for you. ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #234
Ok, I guess I did need to go over it in smaller pieces and in proper order. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #236
"Here* that whooshing sound going over your head?" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #222
Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #224
No, but I certainly feel superior to the purveyors of performative outrage, and not just on DU. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #193
Never malaise Dec 2024 #187
When America drs are seeing toddlers with gun shots in their heads womanofthehills Dec 2024 #9
You are aware they came to power directly with Bibi support years ago? IbogaProject Dec 2024 #12
Did you see these articles from Haaretz? people Dec 2024 #13
This. So much this. ZRB Dec 2024 #15
Israel imilitary just assumes that any Palestinian man is Hamas erodriguez Dec 2024 #22
Israel's produced precious little evidence that snot Dec 2024 #26
That didn't age well, did it?Less than 24 hours after the end of operation, the evidence. And it's just a start. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #220
Thank you. Could you please provide the source for your info? snot Dec 2024 #237
Sorry, here it is: Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #238
Fwiw, here is the Guardian's account of what appears to be the same attack: snot Dec 2024 #239
Yes, I read the article. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #244
This message was self-deleted by its author spapeggy Dec 2024 #27
What you write PhylliPretzel Dec 2024 #30
Except confessions of Hamas leaders of doing just that. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #71
Post those videos, we would like to see your proof. arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #80
If you insist. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #96
"confessions of Hamas leaders" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #87
Doesn't look like these Hamas terrorists are being tortured, does it? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #97
This is a good example of non sequitur with a dash of Israeli propaganda and two scoops of bullshit in the mix. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #137
Are you saying they DO look like they are being tortured? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #142
I wasn't talking about these guys and your reply has nothing to do with the op. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #147
Wait a minute... let me process this... was I supposed to reply to YOUR post with something that has to do with the OP Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #156
"your ridiculous presumption that ALL of them were tortured?" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #166
Why a diversion all of a sudden? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #173
This doesn't work for BB any more uponit7771 Dec 2024 #32
Look what you made us do" is the mentality of abusers & psychopaths. Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #42
I blame the gullible and/or complicit for uncritically spewing Israeli propaganda. AloeVera Dec 2024 #56
Don't support Starbucks either, every cup of beverage purchased, a percentage goes to Israel. People akbacchus_BC Dec 2024 #111
Are you telling me there are still progressive types overpaying for that muddy piss just to show off? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #125
Spot on! thank you. comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #113
Congo and Darfur are much more concerning Fichefinder Dec 2024 #5
No place is more concerning than the other womanofthehills Dec 2024 #10
Uh huh. How curious far worse slaughters NEVER get mentioned Arazi Dec 2024 #11
Excellent observation. There are any number of comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #115
Then please do post some OPs on them iemanja Dec 2024 #85
Nobody really cares about those places because comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #116
We cared about Iraq iemanja Dec 2024 #145
No words for Sudan again I see... Arazi Dec 2024 #8
I'm curious quakerboy Dec 2024 #19
The OP is about the slaughter of innocents Arazi Dec 2024 #21
The dead and hungry quakerboy Dec 2024 #41
US involvement isn't the point of the OP however Arazi Dec 2024 #43
Id say it is. quakerboy Dec 2024 #48
Why can't we effect change in Darfur? Or Congo? Arazi Dec 2024 #49
How? quakerboy Dec 2024 #74
Removing US aid would not stop Israeli action in Gaza Arazi Dec 2024 #92
I dont agree. Period. quakerboy Dec 2024 #134
I just did a search under your name for Darfur, Congo, and Sudan iemanja Dec 2024 #82
It's not about *my* fixation Arazi Dec 2024 #93
Your singular point iemanja Dec 2024 #144
It's a very short post and not difficult to read iemanja Dec 2024 #78
Again I repeat, it's not *my* fixation Arazi Dec 2024 #94
You're the one continually raising it as an excuse. iemanja Dec 2024 #143
I'm curious sarisataka Dec 2024 #23
There is a difference in power over the situation, in my perception quakerboy Dec 2024 #40
No, but it makes us as taxpayers complicit in the genocide iemanja Dec 2024 #84
Just to show how superficial and fallacious this argument is, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #99
62,000 is the number of dead I see for Sudan womanofthehills Dec 2024 #53
Sudan: "..up to 150,000 people had been killed in the conflict across the country." EX500rider Dec 2024 #66
Whataboutism iemanja Dec 2024 #76
me too BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2024 #14
Why do posts like this never mention Hamas? perdita9 Dec 2024 #16
Because Hamas are "freedom fighters like Mandela" BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #37
Hamas: mr715 Dec 2024 #52
Because it's not a war - it's a one way slaughter womanofthehills Dec 2024 #54
So who's been killing IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #62
Hamas and Hezbollah did not form in a political vacuum. lees1975 Dec 2024 #70
Of course not. They wouldn't exist if Iran didn't prop them up in their quest to destabilize the entire region. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #102
The reason for their formation and existence was present long before Iran got involved. lees1975 Dec 2024 #114
Hamas was founded in 1987. Hezbollah was founded in 1985. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #119
I think you are well aware of the reason. Just as an example, after Oct 7, there was sparce condemnation of what Hamas JohnSJ Dec 2024 #106
Great post. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #117
Because now it's not Hamas doing the slaughtering? AloeVera Dec 2024 #157
You are presuming that hiding among civilians in humanitarian zones is not an atrocity. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #225
It is a reason there will never be peace. Violence begets violence and revenge seems to be a basic human instinct. surfered Dec 2024 #17
real talk: no one. quakerboy Dec 2024 #18
K&R 2naSalit Dec 2024 #24
The bib got dump elected. Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #25
Others want credit as well sarisataka Dec 2024 #35
Hamas is going to stop "Bibi and the Complicit West" by returning the hostages. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #28
I gave up on Israel when Bibi MuchBetterThanThis Dec 2024 #29
Aid enid602 Dec 2024 #39
The hostages have been in the terror tunnels for well over a year. Richard D Dec 2024 #31
Someone give Israel their own planet, in another galaxy please Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #45
If you can't care about the hostages Hamas took, you can't care about the civilians killed in the war either NickB79 Dec 2024 #46
You're right . . . Richard D Dec 2024 #47
Oh I know revenge has nothing to do with it. Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #89
This word salad is as meaningless as it is familiar. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #105
It infuriates me. AloeVera Dec 2024 #127
Ah so Jewish people defending themselves is pure evil. ZRB Dec 2024 #139
Evil is evil, even when Jews are committing it. AloeVera Dec 2024 #153
So, you agree then, that Hamas is very evil? yagotme Dec 2024 #229
And routinely disregarding evil with one conspicuous exception smacks of special dispensation, doesn't it? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #232
Wanna cracker, Polly? Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #183
"False atrocity propaganda" . . . Richard D Dec 2024 #148
Touched a nerve... AloeVera Dec 2024 #155
Pathetic Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #162
Thank you for this. AloeVera Dec 2024 #212
New health dept report heading to the UN. (WARNING) Mosby Dec 2024 #213
You and I both know that there are those who will deny this MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #214
Hi MCE. AloeVera Dec 2024 #219
Hi AloeVera, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #221
Just be careful, that's how Willie Nelson got hurt,,, yagotme Dec 2024 #230
Hitting the road again? AloeVera Dec 2024 #231
Are you for real? Mossfern Dec 2024 #160
Plenty of information from reputable Human Rights organizations Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #167
I'm talking about the atrocities of 10/7 Mossfern Dec 2024 #169
Here's your answer Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #171
Uncaptured media Mossfern Dec 2024 #177
You hit the nail on the head. AloeVera Dec 2024 #59
Excellent points AloeVera Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #90
That's a gross overestimation. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #108
The sad and harsh truth malaise Dec 2024 #100
That's the problem. You don't care enough to ask yourself what the reason for such discrepancy is. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #101
Bingo. Cruelty is what netenyahu has unleashed on the Palestinians. That was his goal all along and akbacchus_BC Dec 2024 #112
If cruelty was his goal all along, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #126
Everything you say is what Israel is doing to their prisoners womanofthehills Dec 2024 #55
Who has the video? How many hostages are "many"? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #109
And guess what? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #118
Ha. Only because there is video. AloeVera Dec 2024 #172
Ha!!! MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #174
Some divides are chasms too wide and deep to bridge, MCE AloeVera Dec 2024 #184
I do love a good challenge. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #189
"Who is going to stop Bibi and the complicit West?" J_William_Ryan Dec 2024 #33
This is, unfortunately, the way it is calguy Dec 2024 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #36
This kind The Bopper Dec 2024 #38
So am I. It's far past time for Hamas to surrender. tritsofme Dec 2024 #44
You, my friend, are not the only one sick of the IDF shit! Genocide, plainly. Jit423 Dec 2024 #50
THIS malaise Dec 2024 #58
Answer: mr715 Dec 2024 #51
What's the likelihood of that? AloeVera Dec 2024 #57
As likely as democracy to win at home mr715 Dec 2024 #68
I don't see it. AloeVera Dec 2024 #159
And now they have bombed the last hospital malaise Dec 2024 #188
Three babies froze to death in the last few days. AloeVera Dec 2024 #192
Not to defend how out of proportion edhopper Dec 2024 #60
Feeling pretty healthy about the far worse slaughter everywhere else? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #61
Bibi isn't at blame. He is responding to the threat to his people. Groundhawg Dec 2024 #86
I watched a great documentary the other evening. It's called "The Bibi Files". Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #88
Why the 7 Oct 2023 Attack in Southern Israel? C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #91
Are we justifyig hostage taking now? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #110
Ask Donnie Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #98
Beyond sick. marble falls Dec 2024 #103
Netanyahu is setting up World War. Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #107
Those that murder civilians are never the "Good Guys". Ping Tung Dec 2024 #121
What is your opinion about killing illegal combatants who commit a war crime of perfidy? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #128
The same as my opinions about "legal" combatants who kill, starve, torture civilians. Ping Tung Dec 2024 #129
Which is... what, exactly? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #130
That they're war criminals. Ping Tung Dec 2024 #132
Ok, I must have misunderstood the purpose of your post. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #135
OK Mossfern Dec 2024 #161
The only thing that works in stopping a bully OP is ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #133
How about the Arab countries, get off their asses, and make some demands of Bibi, and rescue fellow Arabs? amuse bouche Dec 2024 #136
I believe that you have a good point. nt Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #138
You see there's a really good reason for that... ZRB Dec 2024 #141
Who is the pro-Hamas crowd? iemanja Dec 2024 #146
I don't know what else to call people parroting Hamas propaganda ZRB Dec 2024 #150
Systematically bombing hospitals is mass murder iemanja Dec 2024 #154
What systematic bombing of hospitals? ZRB Dec 2024 #178
There are 22 Arab countries amuse bouche Dec 2024 #191
Everywhere I look...I see HAMAS! Lemons UK Dec 2024 #149
I hate it too, but it isn't just Bibi and the west. 58Sunliner Dec 2024 #151
Hamas can stop it's terrorist activities. nycbos Dec 2024 #152
No one in power cares... WarGamer Dec 2024 #158
And I'm sick of the anti Israel propaganda posted here. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #164
"anti Israel propaganda posted here" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #182
Genocide and war crimes malaise Dec 2024 #216
Sorry, not buying what you're trying to sell here. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #217
Am I lost? LiberaBlueDem Dec 2024 #175
Yes, unfortunately I noticed that also. That's a damn shame. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #186
Democrats aren't pacifists. Mosby Dec 2024 #200
The continued slaughter is no longer self defense within the confines of this current war Martin Eden Dec 2024 #195
Israel should continue to degrade Hamas Mosby Dec 2024 #196
"They don't want a country, they want to destroy Israel." Martin Eden Dec 2024 #199
I think Native Americans might have come to that conclusion too. y AloeVera Dec 2024 #203
Native Americans, in their desperation and grief, turned to the Ghost Dance. Martin Eden Dec 2024 #206
Sometimes words can't either. AloeVera Dec 2024 #211
A very thoughtful response malaise Dec 2024 #197
The US is protecting our interests there.. by supporting Israel Arazi Dec 2024 #201
But no issue with the higher death counts in other recent wars? EX500rider Dec 2024 #198
Gaza is the worst slaughter of civilians in a "war" by any measure in the last 20 years or more. AloeVera Dec 2024 #202
So killing 10 people in a country with 20 people would be worse then killing 3 million in a country with 23 million? EX500rider Dec 2024 #204
Lol!! AloeVera Dec 2024 #205
Lets use the UN number maybe? EX500rider Dec 2024 #207
I thought your side didn't trust the UN. AloeVera Dec 2024 #208
"unverified, unproven, evidence-free, totally made-up claim that the death toll of around 45k" EX500rider Dec 2024 #209
Ah, selective editing. AloeVera Dec 2024 #210
Correct malaise Dec 2024 #215
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