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In reply to the discussion: Is Canada's democracy on the brink of collapse? [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(51,343 posts)30. You write there is pending "collapse" of democracy & then propose an anarchic election
Stop it. I do not think you are "advocating FOR anarchy" and never wrote anything remotely resembling that.
I think you
1) Over dramatize the situation: "brink of collapse".
2) Indulge in binary mode thinking: "complete failure", "acquiesced", "without any deterrence".
3) Mischaracterize posters writing through lack of comprehension (other alternative is purposely which I don't believe): "How many closings acceptable to you", "I guess astroturf insurrections are no big deal", "How much anarchy is too much for you".
4) You may be an American (US citizen).
5) Haven't thought through to realize just how destabilizing and anarchic an emotional election would be.
Don't you realize that forcing an election now would destabilize things more than anything people are doing or not doing regarding this crisis?
Why would you even suggest such a stupid idea? (idea, not you) It would destabilize because
1) It would be seen as the worst kind of opportunism while the Conservative party has only an interim leader.
2) You seem to have forgotten there was a very recent election. If I took your debating style I'd write some tripe like "You write as if you don't know there was a very recent election". I remind you, many people thought the September election was opportunistic (see pt 1).
3) An election in the middle of turmoil would be turbulent beyond belief compared to the last 100 years of elections. Stupid time to call for an election. Such an emotional election would be rife with anarchy and not characterized by sober reflection.
4) The key truckers' demand has been "Fuck Trudeau". They talk about wanting a new election. They would cheer if there was a stupid election now. To use your own phraseology, it would be Bannon's wet dream. Why would you play into their hands? Did you not think this through and arrive at this angle?
Do not give the occupiers what they want.
Again, your thesis "brink of collapse" and your proposed solution "force a new election" are nonsense.
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Feel free to refute any perceived "nonsense". largest US/Can border crossing is currently blocked
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#4
Well, first off, you indulge in binary, all or nothing, black or white thinking, which is very flawe
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2022
#6
Did the police/border patrol attempt to stop the blockade of the Ambassador bridge?
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#12
How many Jan6 are acceptable to you? Did you post US democracy on brink of collapse Jan 2017 & Jan6?
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2022
#15
My position on the fragility of US democracy is easily researched in my past posts on DU.
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#20
Alberta lifted all COVID restrictions in one fell swoop last night. Saskatchewan to follow.
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#13
Yes, codswallop. In any case, "a new election" is not a collapse of democracy. OP stranger to logic.
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2022
#17
Your conclusion, "a new election", is not anarchy. Most consider elections hallmark of democracy.nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2022
#25
You seriously misunderstand my position- it's not that a new election would be anarchy
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#27
You write there is pending "collapse" of democracy & then propose an anarchic election
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2022
#30
Do not give the occupiers what they want: "a new election". It is nonsense to suggest one. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2022
#32
Do you agree Trudeau must be pressured to act boldly to end the crisis?
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#33
The organizers currently have a platform for free media and fundraising
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2022
#35