Gun Control & RKBA

benEzra

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59. Umm, isn't Australia's suicide rate slightly *higher* than that of the United States?

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:47 AM

Aug 2015

The U.S. suicide rate is middle of the pack compared to other industrialized nations; higher than some, lower than some (including Australia's).

Australia is actually a pretty strong case for the argument that gun bans don't affect suicide rates at all, due to method shift, which has been pretty well documented.

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Parents Blame Suicide on $10 Rented Gun [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP

Gunzzzz when the solution to a problem... mikeysnot Jul 2015 #1

The solution to the problem of nuclear weapons is obviously more and more nuclear weapons! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #2

Speaking of illogical clffrdjk Jul 2015 #6

Can you tell me just how the gun convinced her to drive to the range clffrdjk Jul 2015 #5

Guns make killing so easy-easy and as you point out, are easily transportable and concealable, Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #10

Non-responsive. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #11

So the gun had nothing to do with her choosing to comit feloney theft clffrdjk Jul 2015 #16

Umm, isn't Australia's suicide rate slightly *higher* than that of the United States? benEzra Aug 2015 #59

Does your gun talk to you? mikeysnot Jul 2015 #12

Nope clffrdjk Jul 2015 #17

Link please! mikeysnot Jul 2015 #18

Scroll up almost to the top of the page. clffrdjk Jul 2015 #23

You are not very good at this are you? mikeysnot Aug 2015 #62

how bored were you that you had to resurrect this zombie? clffrdjk Aug 2015 #68

Hey! It only took him a month to think up a snappy answer DonP Aug 2015 #69

The gun was along for the ride whispering sweet nothings about how EASY it is use a gun to kill Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #14

This seems to be the recurring fantasy blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #15

You mean like this guy? mikeysnot Jul 2015 #19

More like this guy clffrdjk Jul 2015 #27

No gun discussion at DU is complete mikeysnot Jul 2015 #31

Haha clffrdjk Jul 2015 #32

He's got nothing. (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #33

That is a fact. clffrdjk Jul 2015 #35

You are a weapon of mass-projection. mikeysnot Aug 2015 #60

When you offer nothing mikeysnot Aug 2015 #61

I am asking a serious question. clffrdjk Jul 2015 #20

Because your guns keep coming for us, we are coming for your guns. I kept it simple. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #24

My guns aren't coming for anyone, blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #26

Are you sure? Better go check, evidently they roam around when we're not looking??? ileus Aug 2015 #64

How exactly did this gun come for her? clffrdjk Jul 2015 #29

That lot cannot rationally explain their animism friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #37

Why are you spreading sarisataka Jul 2015 #38

Did I leave the safe open again? Jesus, these things are like herding cats, I swear. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #41

Coming for our guns with what? Oneka Jul 2015 #42

ROFL. beevul Jul 2015 #43

Careful, they may turn you into a newt! blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #48

Bad BAD gun! Stop that! ileus Aug 2015 #63

In my small collection I have both a French musket and a Continental built musket oneshooter Aug 2015 #65

It's the Ruger Whisperer-er-er! Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #58

nothing here.nt Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #57

So, the only thing I think the range did wrong, was, they allowed her to steal the gun. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #3

Whats behind door number 3? Oneka Jul 2015 #39

That's my position. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #40

I blame a lot of murders on irresponsible gun laws, but suicides are different lostnfound Jul 2015 #4

So many options, yet she chose the gun SecularMotion Jul 2015 #7

52 percent of the time in the US gejohnston Jul 2015 #8

the suicide issue is not a gun issue, it's a mental health issue primarily. the band leader Jul 2015 #45

"focus on the suicide issue" beergood Jul 2015 #53

You can't run away from a bullet and the gun is designed to kill, so it is SO much easier and Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #13

So what you are saying is that when she committed suicide she actually wanted to die and it was not clffrdjk Jul 2015 #21

Sorry, I ran out of crayons just now and can not help you any further with your education today. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #22

Damn it must suck holding a position that you can't support with even just one logical answer. clffrdjk Jul 2015 #25

Thats hardly an argument that applies to people that choose to run into a bullet. beevul Jul 2015 #44

virtually every society in history... fifthofnine Jul 2015 #46

"I am unsure why this concept still perplexes some in our society." friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #49

I'm not. beevul Aug 2015 #66

I have a solution to the scourge of gun violence. branford Aug 2015 #67

More misguided souls... ileus Jul 2015 #9

"Misguided" is such a kind word for these folks DonP Jul 2015 #28

Suicide risk and method gwheezie Jul 2015 #30

Logic is something the law respects much more than gun lovers and NRA BizzaroWorld "logic". Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #34

Logic clffrdjk Jul 2015 #36

If one of you patients commit suicide with a gun, do you blame the gun branford Jul 2015 #47

Guns do not make people attempt suicide gwheezie Jul 2015 #50

Assisting people who are suicidal, regardless of their preferred means of action, branford Jul 2015 #51

Actually I have advised patients about their rights gwheezie Jul 2015 #52

You appear to be a caring and concerned health professional branford Jul 2015 #54

Another concern about gun confiscation gwheezie Jul 2015 #55

People rarely consider the potential economic consequences of losing rights, branford Jul 2015 #56