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ismnotwasm

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34. Wow and this POV from a parent blog
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:58 PM
Aug 2013
Both performers should be held accountable for what they did. It was rehearsed, there were many adults involved in making the decisions about what the audience would see. I think we can hold performers responsible for their art free of censorship, as the audience we have every right to comment on and critique. This act went on stage with those responsible knowing plenty of young people would be seeing it. I’m rather certain they were banking on that.

I’m not sure too many people had high standards for Thicke, whose rise to fame came on the wings of this summer’s rape anthem. On the TODAY show his mom spoke of her shock over the way Miley danced with her son, but said nothing of Thicke’s sexist, degrading video to his hit song about date rape. It is the perfect example of the double standards we hold in society. She says she can’t unsee Miley’s rump twerking on her son, just like I can’t unhear Thicke’s lyrics about wanting to tear a girl’s ass in half during anal sex because she’s the sexiest bitch up in this place. I wonder if that makes his mom blush, too?

People feel differently about Cyrus than they do about Thicke, and when we discuss this we are falling short when we shrug it off by saying she doesn’t want to be a role model, doesn’t owe anyone anything, and can express her sexuality any way she wants. That falls short because she is a role model and how she expresses her sexuality impacts the millions of girls with less fame and less money. Miley becomes part of a media culture. Media shapes perception, and perception becomes reality.


The blogger asked for Facebook responses, my favorite, reminicient of RedQueen's thread;

“It was a great example of what is called The Patriarchal Bargain. A patriarchal bargain is when a woman willingly accepts gender rules that generally disadvantage women in exchange for whatever power she can then wrest from the system. It is an individual strategy designed to manipulate the system to one’s best advantage, but one that leaves the system itself intact. Miley fulfilled the bargain in textbook fashion – sexualizing herself, turning the Male Gaze on herself, in order to manipulate the system, which benefits her personally, but at the expense of all other young women, who feel the repercussions of male gaze, without being able to subvert it for financial gain. This isn’t about making the world G-rated. It is about making women objects, instead of letting them be subjects. It isn’t a healthy take on female sexuality at all – there is no empowerment for women in that performance, or in singing a song that glorifies the interchangeability of objectified women for men’s pleasure.” -Kristin Yates Thomas



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Personally, I'm grateful for the thoughtful discussions that arose from this in different areas of the blogosphere

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Shame on both of them... tridim Aug 2013 #1
Cause she is so tacky. She looks like a candidate for SLA Anon. Robin Thicke-slimy!! WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #2
Gaga doesn't just look ridiculous. nt tridim Aug 2013 #4
Because women are free to be "proud stripper sluts" now? redqueen Aug 2013 #3
Nailed it ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #5
The rank hypocrisy of liberals on shit like this makes me want to puke. redqueen Aug 2013 #8
Yup ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #9
They're all buffoons. I wish they would keep their damned clothes on - boys and girls alike. Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #6
who cares. why talk about this person at all. northoftheborder Aug 2013 #7
I vote with my clicker - don't watch the VMAs hollysmom Aug 2013 #10
I just watched a clip of the performance BainsBane Aug 2013 #11
Maybe it's just me, but howling out that rape apologist anthem redqueen Aug 2013 #12
Yes. You have a definite point. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #14
The song is garbage BainsBane Aug 2013 #19
Oh no, I know you're not. redqueen Aug 2013 #20
That certainly was a key issue in the Janet Jackson-Timberlake thing BainsBane Aug 2013 #21
Perhaps what's causing the confusion is that they shared a stage. redqueen Aug 2013 #22
I agree that his song is much worse than a performance. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #35
You must have missed the butt grinding part ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #15
I did see that BainsBane Aug 2013 #18
well, the double standard is there for sure... But, I tend to agree with even the "COOLERATI" hlthe2b Aug 2013 #13
I blame generations of morons bleating out the "sex sells!" mantra. nt redqueen Aug 2013 #16
Yes, indeed. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #17
Thicke has gotten plenty of sh*t for the "Blurred Lines" song already. alp227 Aug 2013 #23
He claimed it was a feminist song. nt ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #25
An interesting opinion on the whole situation ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #24
THIS! redqueen Aug 2013 #27
Couldn't you say the same thing about eminems entire career? Mosby Aug 2013 #29
No. redqueen Aug 2013 #30
good points Mosby Aug 2013 #31
My criticism of her is that she's just plain awful BainsBane Aug 2013 #32
Same way Janet Jackson got slut shamed for showing a nipple ring when Warpy Aug 2013 #26
They both looked dumber than a bag of hammers. but, I don't totally don't care - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #28
Both of them looked funny as hell to me. I laughed at the whole thing - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #33
Wow and this POV from a parent blog ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #34
I call it slut-GAMING. rocktivity Sep 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Sep 2014 #37
UPDATE: Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams are being sued by Marvin Gaye's estate rocktivity Sep 2014 #38
Because Cyrus is worth paying attention too? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #39
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