for the treatment. DU3 is a failed experiment. I don't blame the Admins for giving the members self-rule, they listened to enough complaining (in some cases justified) about unfair mods, unfair rules, arbitrary decisions. So they said - leave it to our members. They are adults, liberals, progressives, Democrats - let them make this community what they want it to be, let's see what they are made of. And this is what we get. Many people should be ashamed of the petty, spiteful way they act on DU.
In the past couple of weeks I spent some time reading in the DU2 Women's Rights and Feminists forums. Nothing has changed, if anything it is worse now than it was. I see no hope that anything will change the dynamic at DU. That leads me to the question, is there some intrinsic value in DU that makes it worthwhile to deal with those whose ideas, attitudes and language towards women sicken me? Not that I can think of.
The other thing I figured out is that it is very hard to break a 12 year habit. Ha! I wonder how many others get no joy out of participating here, are no longer learning anything of value but hang around out of habit. Not sure how I am going to get through that - perhaps a fuck you to 5 of my favorite posters. 
Anyway - hang in there seabeyond if you see some value in participating on DU. Wishing you the best.
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