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redqueen

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Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:27 PM Dec 2013

The Not-So-Great Debate on Domestic Violence [View all]

Thought I'd link this here as a reference. There's a lot of anti-feminist propaganda regarding domestic violence out there. If you're actively discussing the issue in public, you might encounter some of the claims that are most commonly made based on the flawed or misconstrued studies which you find cited on MRA sites (Radar, The Spearhead, AVFM, etc.)

A few years ago, David Futrelle (of manboobz) engaged a popular MRA in a debate about domestic violence, as this is one of the most common topics that MRAs love to spread disinformation about.

So if you're ever in a situation where you're talking about DV with feminists, and someone shows up and starts introducing some of this whacko stuff, this is a good resource which I've used to decide to either just stop responding or to shut them down if time allows.


In October 2010, I agreed to a debate on Domestic Violence with Men's Rights Activist Paul Elam of the blog A Voice for Men, to take place on his blog. Unfortunately, it went off the rails fairly quickly. At about the same time as he put up my first post in the debate, Elam put up a separate piece on his blog, suggesting, as a "joke," that October, Domestic Violence Awareness Month, should be renamed "Bash a Violent Bitch Month." He then tried to twist the rules of our debate in a way that would benefit him, and threatened to censor a commenter on the debate who'd had the temerity to disagree with him.

After several frustrating exchanges with him on this issue I decided to end the debate. You can read all the gory details here, and more about his childish behavior afterwards here.

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http://manboobz.blogspot.com/p/not-so-great-debate-on-domestic.html
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There is no excuse for Domestic Violence. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #1
There is also no excuse for false stats that try to diminish boston bean Dec 2013 #6
I agree. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #10
And then there is the absurd argument BainsBane Dec 2013 #2
Not to mention that men had more reason to fear than women, KitSileya Dec 2013 #3
It is true that more men than women are victims of violent crime BainsBane Dec 2013 #5
That is definitely a part of it. KitSileya Dec 2013 #7
Whatch out! They may want to xulamaude Dec 2013 #9
Oh, they've tried drowning BainsBane Dec 2013 #13
Yes, the sorcery called xulamaude Dec 2013 #14
And in addition, if I'm reading these stats from BJS right... KitSileya Dec 2013 #15
That's interesting and thanks for posting the link too xulamaude Dec 2013 #17
Oh, I wish I had a brain freeze right now. KitSileya Dec 2013 #18
Rest well Kit :) nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #20
Having looked at table 5 xulamaude Dec 2013 #19
Interesting BainsBane Dec 2013 #21
Oh, I missed the message from our visitor BainsBane Dec 2013 #23
Not me. xulamaude Dec 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #22
It is not only men who perhaps unknowingly perhaps not, find reasons to use ridicule for those AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #4
It is true that many, many women are xulamaude Dec 2013 #11
The word Survival states it well, sadly they don't understand how surviving doesn't exactly mean AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #12
Two entirely different ways of 'being' xulamaude Dec 2013 #16
It's been quite some time since I have read xulamaude Dec 2013 #8
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