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ismnotwasm

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Mon May 12, 2014, 08:06 AM May 2014

White privilege 101: Here’s the basic lesson Paul Ryan, Tal Fortgang and Donald Sterling need [View all]

Last edited Mon May 12, 2014, 10:03 PM - Edit history (1)

And all the DUers that don't understand what the fuck White privilege is. While this article is somewhat intellectual in tone, I'm sure all the ones who are defining their arguments against white male privilege will have no problems understanding it.

And yet, Katie McDonough correctly argued, his denial of racism and his own privileged position represents a new majority view among whites, who think they’re more discriminated against than blacks, despite all manner of evidence to the contrary (more on that below). And this is where the danger and the challenge to progressives lies — as well as the challenge to the Democratic Party. If—as recent research suggests — whites grow increasingly conservative as perceived minority voting power grows, then the “Rising American electorate” argument itself is in danger. It could be every bit as much a fantasy, in its own, much more sophisticated way, as the Tea Party fantasy that the GOP can just double down on where it is, and get by on better messaging and a sprinkling of more diverse spokes/front people.

There is a way to fight back against this very real, and so far unrecognized, threat. And that is for white people — especially white men — to step up and push back (lovingly or forcefully, as the situation dictates) against this sort of polarizing rhetoric and the thinking and feeling that’s connected to it. It’s not just a matter of paternalistically “helping out” women and minorities when they’re attacked. The fortunes of white working-class men have plummeted since the early ’70s — not because women and minorities have stolen their cheese, but because they’re snookered into thinking like that, making themselves easy marks for far more sophisticated actors to take advantage of. And what’s long been true for working-class white men will increasingly become true of white men with college degrees as well. One of Thomas Piketty’s central points is that any sort of labor, however skilled it may be, is going to lose out to inherited capital in the long run, if the basic structures of today’s capitalist economy aren’t changed.

So how do white men fight back, not just for the sake of others, or society as a whole, but for themselves, as well? There are lots of ways they can do this, but here I’d like to focus on just one: by gaining a much a more solid, objective understanding of what minorities (especially blacks) and women already largely understand as a basic fact of life — how racial and gender privilege work, with white male ignorance as a key component. It’s only by unifying against an already unified economic elite that Americans of all races and ethnicities can keep hope alive for a more prosperous future.

Before going any further, I just want to quote from McDonough’s article, where she references a sampling of the information already out there:

It’s likely that Fortgang will have the opportunity at Princeton to learn about the racial wealth gap, the legacy of red-lining, the unemployment rate among college educated men of color versus their white counterparts, the convergence of racism and sexism that leaves women of color disproportionately impacted by domestic violence, the gender pay gap experienced by black women, the deadly violence faced by black children and the myriad other manifestations of racism in the United States. Basically all of the things that he will never have to experience as an extraordinarily privileged white man.


http://www.salon.com/2014/05/09/white_privilege_101_heres_the_basic_lesson_paul_ryan_tal_fortgang_and_donald_sterling/
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inherited capital Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #1
Unless you are not White..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #4
not now it isn't but, it is quickly getting to that stage. There will be a heirarchy even then, yes. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #6
My grandparents were Sharecroppers.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #24
Old white men need to realize we are not their Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #27
Yep...the fact that even on DU so many White men are freaking out over the term White Privilege VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #29
Agree. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #33
It. Is. Not!! I have two Masters Degrees and a Doctorate. I earn a 6-figure income. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #14
it *will* is what I said/meant. it is coming to that. there will still be a hierarchy. By no means Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #16
Until then...White male privilege exists now.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #25
Yes. It does. Did not mean to imply otherwise. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #30
Okay sorry if I misunderstood! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #31
+1 mercuryblues May 2014 #2
I see white men who know this, but don't want income parity. Starry Messenger May 2014 #3
Exactly....and the fact that so many on DU have the nerve to suggest this doesn't exist VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #5
that OP is a mess. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #7
Excellent article, ismnotwasm. sheshe2 May 2014 #8
Plato's Cave Allegory seems applicable here. riqster May 2014 #10
White entitlement is maybe a better term, white privilege is a term that seems to get people's backs Fred Sanders May 2014 #9
it is at the point now that people do not really care if they have offended the offensive. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #12
See, this is the problem. Black people have been taught from the craddle to do everything Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #15
I think those are two separate things IronLionZion May 2014 #22
Or White Advantage.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #26
Amen to the white collar jobs in same peril as blue collar jobs, H1 abuse could rise overnight uponit7771 May 2014 #11
We only pretend not to know what "white privilege" is. Maybe we should change the term to Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #13
^this^ Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #17
Keep speaking/writing L_S JustAnotherGen May 2014 #18
I think part of the problem is that being told to "check your privilege" is provocative elias7 May 2014 #19
That could be BainsBane May 2014 #21
While I think there are unwitting racists or sexists on DU, elias7 May 2014 #23
Your comment about ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #46
check your privilege is akin to asking you to consider (before speaking) the POV and experience of bettyellen May 2014 #28
I understand what check your privilege is meant to convey elias7 May 2014 #34
Yes-it sounds a put down to some of the initiated too though. God don't we love lectures on tone.... bettyellen May 2014 #35
Agreed, those who are tone deaf should not lecture those on tone elias7 May 2014 #36
Racism exists ismnotwasm May 2014 #45
Great catch ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #20
I have literally zero time for these jackasses MadrasT May 2014 #32
Because MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! BainsBane May 2014 #37
Seems they really *have* no politics except being (perhaps justifiably) jealous of rich people. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #40
As I've posted before ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #47
+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #48
I've been at work all day ismnotwasm May 2014 #38
This post is probably the most relevant post on privilege ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #39
do you mean the post or the OP? Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #41
The OP. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #42
agreed. this one and I personally like the Louis CK one in GD, too. But this one speaks to the Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #44
Heh! ismnotwasm May 2014 #43
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