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MadrasT

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49. I deplore it.

Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:41 PM

Jun 2014

It just says "Hey it's OK to be a slut." Not helpful, because to many if not most people, "slut" is still an ugly word with negative connotations.

I am sick to death of women being judged by their degree of sexuality, manner of sexual expression, and manner(s) of having sex. It isn't anybody's fucking business (other than the other person or people that woman is being sexual with, and even then, only if *she* cares to discuss it with them).

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Who else here is sick to death of the term 'slut shame'? [View all] redqueen Jun 2014 OP

I've not heard it used yet... FarPoint Jun 2014 #1

It's in the thread about the billionaire who molested his 12 year old stepdaughter. redqueen Jun 2014 #2

Thank you for the reference... FarPoint Jun 2014 #4

thank you. I did not understand the context of the OP. I must say that I never Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #16

I have never understood it's purpose... giftedgirl77 Jun 2014 #3

I'm sick of it. TheBlackAdder Jun 2014 #5

it wasn't before? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #12

I think you're talking past each other, unless you're being sarcastic. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #48

of course it is not becoming non gender specific. a man still gets a pat for "getting" it. a woman seabeyond Jun 2014 #50

I was referring spiecifically to his post about Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #52

that's just plain bullshit....Men have never been shamed for being sexual and enjoying sex.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #55

Ok, I'm out of here. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #62

different posters. but ya. i hear what he was meaning. we get that. we have heard it enough. seabeyond Jun 2014 #64

I've heard my nephews use it to describe males, but it was praise, similar to 'stud-muffin'. Flatulo Jun 2014 #69

absolutely and why lie to ourselves. certainly will not encourage progression. seabeyond Jun 2014 #71

Uh I find that not believable.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #54

Then take it up with him. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #63

I am BainsBane Jun 2014 #6

Thank you, that is a VERY important point. redqueen Jun 2014 #8

exactly! Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #17

I never liked it at all. MH1 Jun 2014 #7

I totally agree! DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #9

Never heard the term Android3.14 Jun 2014 #10

you have now. Welcome. What is your first impression of the term? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #30

Sounds cumbersome Android3.14 Jun 2014 #46

you think those workers are slut shaming that woman ... ? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #47

If it's that complicated Android3.14 Jun 2014 #53

Why shame anyone for their sexual proclivities? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #61

Yeah. It sucks. This whole concept of "taking back" terminology doesn't work. Squinch Jun 2014 #11

Exactly, thank you for saying it so well. redqueen Jun 2014 #27

Speaking as someone who hates the word "slut," I think the phrase "slut-shaming" StevieM Jun 2014 #13

your post makes no sense to me. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #24

Yes, I understand the way it's used, but it doesn't change the fact redqueen Jun 2014 #28

I think you are correct about how it is meant, but the fact remains that we are Squinch Jun 2014 #56

yes. i am saying to my boys. that there is even a term, is the issue. seabeyond Jun 2014 #14

I see the term as a positive development paulkienitz Jun 2014 #15

? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #18

I'm saying the same as Stevie M paulkienitz Jun 2014 #20

his post makes no sense to me, either. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #25

read baines above. the point. approaching as you do also allows the prude shaming. same thing, seabeyond Jun 2014 #19

that may be true but this is still a step forward from the prior status quo paulkienitz Jun 2014 #21

not "that may be true". it is true. and it matters. and no. it is not a step forward. it is seabeyond Jun 2014 #22

in what way, to meet these standards, should the public respond to someone calling "slut"? paulkienitz Jun 2014 #26

I'll agree it's lazy. boston bean Jun 2014 #23

It is a clumsy way to get the point across, though. redqueen Jun 2014 #29

We probably need a word or phrase that includes boston bean Jun 2014 #31

'Misogyny' works for me. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #33

Nailed that one, RQ. n/t malthaussen Jun 2014 #41

You're right. That standard is never applied to men. Rozlee Jun 2014 #35

and this is what we should go after. the god like status we give male sexuality. i call bullshit. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #44

Not in my lexicon, as it happens. malthaussen Jun 2014 #32

It's a useless term. redqueen Jun 2014 #37

No, it's a useful term. malthaussen Jun 2014 #39

I think you and I have had discussions about a particular term that you have used msanthrope Jun 2014 #34

then discuss it with the pro porn people, that you obsess so over that terminology. seabeyond Jun 2014 #45

I have never met a male, or a "pro-porn" person on this board who has used the term I am msanthrope Jun 2014 #58

If you google that term, 5 of the top 10 returns are porn. MadrasT Jun 2014 #59

If I google that term on this site, the results are exactly as I have noted. I do not msanthrope Jun 2014 #60

you KNOW the context it was used. and you are using THAT to attack a poster you do not like seabeyond Jun 2014 #65

Thanks for a perspective I hasn't considered theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #36

It is just one facet of the turd gem that is sexual prejudice. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #38

I predominantly used the word slut mackerel Jun 2014 #40

Me. I tried it out a few times, and I was never comfortable with it ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #42

I think most feminists have realized that reclaiming it is only possible for privileged women. redqueen Jun 2014 #43

It is indeed praise Flatulo Jun 2014 #70

I deplore it. MadrasT Jun 2014 #49

Because it exists Warpy Jun 2014 #51

I know that misogynist assholes and ignorant people use the word 'slut'. redqueen Jun 2014 #57

I don't really get it... Violet_Crumble Jun 2014 #66

I have ALWAYS despised this saying TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #67

Wish I could rec your post. redqueen Jun 2014 #68