It's cute how some people act so aggrieved that they can't post in HoF. (HOF THREAD)

[jollyreaper2112]

8. Yeah

Commenting because this showed up on the main thread list.

There's more or an echo chamber with a selection pressure for doctrinal purity than any kind of outreach or constructive activity. It's one of the failure modes of advocacy groups. There are certainly MRA types out there looking to tangle and what usually happens is a pig fight between the loudest on both sides and the result is nothing really changes.

Progress isn't made preaching to the choir but in reaching people who are ignorant of or ambivalent concerning an issue. Give them a reason to take your side.

It's like with the pig fights over Obama. He's a means to an end, not an end. The point wasn't to elect him, it was to have our man in office enacting a progressive agenda. It doesn't matter if he's handsome, takes great pictures or gives you a warm fuzzy. That's just celebrity hero worship. But a criticism of Obama as a progressive becomes conflated with an attack on the man and all hell breaks loose. Nothing is accomplished.

It's actually pretty demoralizing to watch.