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3. The extremes that gunners will go to to avoid admitting that the US
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 01:17 PM
Oct 2014

has a gun death problem is both amazing and amusing.

First response is generally, 'no regulation would prevent (Sandy Hook, Columbine, take your pick of other shootings)'. If you point out that a mandatory gun safe storage law would prevent most of them they demand that the government buy the gunsafe for them or that it costs $7000 when an electronic keypad controlled pistol safe sells for $39 then they cry about the time it takes to unlock the gunsafe as if the mongol hordes were at their door daily.

Next response usually goes, 'gun homicides are down from (some year 5 decades ago)'. When you point out that gun deaths have been flat for the last 3 decades while auto deaths have declined due to regulation they ignore you. When you point out that US citizens are 6x more likely to suffer homicide than the next nearest comparable nation and 12x more likely than the third place nation they go silent.

If you point out that other nations like Canada and Australia have successfully reduced gun deaths they scream 'SECOND AMENDMENT' as if it didn't have that well regulated clause and even Antonin Scalia says that guns can be regulated by the states.

I used to try to engage them in useful discussion but it always goes immediately to denial, obfuscation and logical fallacy. One of them even claims that Moms Demand Action is a CIA style psyops operation and that all the demonstrators are paid operatives. He knows because he has 'moles' in the operation. Besides he has read EVERY SINGLE STUDY ON GUN VIOLENCE AND PERSONALLY DEBUNKED THEM!!

I don't bother with them anymore, it's like debating right to life or born again Christianity. Can't be done.

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